Honestly can we please just enforce the 24 hour rule like you posted? More than 24 hours is ridiculous. We don't even have to kick them out of the league, just give them an autopick and let the next person pick, with the person who got autopicked allowed to switch his pick if he wants to a person who hasn't been picked when he finally logs on.

I think you underestimate Stockton a bit, but otherwise I think this is a really good post about building a team and how all stats aren't going to simply carry over to this league.

The 24 hour rule is only for the first round, to make sure that people who signed up actually participate. Nobody so far has taken even 12 hours to pick.

1. Its really unfair to compare Lebron and Jordan season by season since Lebron entered the league so much earlier. Comparing them by age would be much better imo.

2. Pippen gets so underrated by some people. Very likely Jordan never ever wins a title without him coming along. What would his legacy have looked like then?

3. Phil Jackson too.

Can we please make this rule for all rounds, seriously there is no reason for someone to go over 24 hours without making a pick. If they know they are going away for a day or two, they can pm their top say 5 list to assani or someone else who is activley posting and not drafting ahead of them.

It's doubtful for Kobe. He's 29 years old. Jordan turned 29 in 1993, after the first of his 3 peats. Jordan rather clearly had a better at age 29 than Kobe did. And Jordan's "decline phase" consisted of playing baseball for 2 years, followed by 3 more Finals MVPs. It would be a miracle if Kobe matched those accomplishments. Impossible? Of course not. But not really likely.

Lebron is a much different case because he's much younger (only 23). His career at 23 is better than Jordan's at 23. That said, there are a few question marks. One problem is that Lebron has been in the league for 5 years. He has more wear on his body than Jordan did at age 23. The bigger problem is that Jordan's peak was phenomenal. It's a lot more likely that Lebron has a better career than Jordan than Kobe. That said, it's still not that likely.

lol assani you are basacally saying my exact same arguments but like 5 hours later. But thanks for agreeing with me again.

Can we all agree to PM the next person after you draft as a courtesy and to keep the draft moving?

Dude I didn't say that. I said if he was able to avg 20 plus as an old man when he came back to play with the wizards a few years back what makes you think that if he didn't start his career in this generation that he wouldn't be able to drop his normal 30 or whatever it is? You have said more than once that jordan would have a harder time now then he did in his era be it 80s or 90s and I am saying that he would be just as dominant and would do it just as easy. I bring up the 80s because Jordan played the first 6 seasons of his career in the 80s and dominated. Of the last 3 decades that's ussually considered the best. I really don't see the drop off in talent in the 90s that you see. Maybe you can be more specific. I'm looking at all the players that were drafted in the 90s and I'm not seeing where good players stopped coming into the league.

In addition, the rule that a player had to play at least one NBA game: what's the purpose? I'd think that posters here have seen more game footage of excluded players like Rose, Oden, and Beasley than they do of players who had their heyday in the 80s. Why not include them?

Phil Jackson is underrated? Anybody could have coached those Bulls teams. Mike Brown, a complete nobody coach, rode LeBron to the finals.

I'm kind of curious to see if anyone actually drafts their coach before the final round, would be pretty dumb imo.

Since when are the Wizards an expansion team?

slightly, do you know what that word means? Look at the players drafted from 1986-1990, those were much much weaker drafts compared to say the drafts from 1996-2000.

Its not absurd at all. Impossible to quantify? Perhaps, but not absurd.

Take MMA for example. I think everyone would agree that the talent base in MMA is going to be much much better in 20 years than it is now because the popularity of it has increased so much that elite athlete kids choose it over other sports more often these days.

This seems like common sense to me, and I don't see how you could really argue it.


Moreover, you ignored my point about more advanced training at a younger age these days. Today every great basketball player is put into private leagues, goes to private high schools especially for basketball, and has a ton of coaching from the time he is little. You simply can't say that this doesn't make them much better.

You have to compare some how and seasons in the league is the best way to me. Even by strict to the day age I'd still go with Jordan.

I for one don't underrate Pippen he was a great defender and complement to Jordan. Every championship team needs two great players.

Phil was great every championship team needs a good coach too.

I misread his post and thought he said that Jordan couldn't drop points on the Wizards instead that he was playing for the Wizards.

And the Expansion teams comment was reffering to how there are more talent, but yet more teams so it's not as obvious.

Please stop this.

I made a rule. Several broke it, and when I try to enforce it you keep mocking it with comments like this, which doesn't help me one bit.

I GET IT: YOU THINK MY RULE IS STUPID. YOU'VE MADE THIS POINT A BUNCH ALREADY. MOVE ON.

The draft is actually moving much quicker than I expected. I was very clear that the draft would be a casual pace. If you don't like that then quit.


Seriously, I'm sorry for lashing out so much today, but I wake up to 5 PMs and a ton of posts in this thread with different suggestions and critiques of this draft. I really can't please everyone, but I do try to listen to people's opinions and then make a quick decision. I'm trying my best. Please help me by just going with my decisions. Again, if you don't like the way I'm doing things then just drop out now.

No.

Ok well I will still stay in this draft, but do you care if I start another one of these (exact same idea, just a faster draft) for the more serious people who want a more speedy draft?

oh...cmon...just do it.

o/u on number of posters who give up on this in the coming months? 8.5.

over...and the fact that there is no time limit is probably the main reason.

Under, and yes I'll bet you Clark.

Ok well since you didn't respond to my message Assani I am going to assume u don't care if I start an identical league with a faster draft process.