On the note of lines, Green bay only 3.5 faves @ Detroit next week?!?

Chiefs and the points seems like the freest of all money.

Uh, yeah. Do you think GB without their top two WRs and only capable pass rusher are going to run over the Lions on the road?

Detroit not that bad, Green Bay will likely still be without Matthews and Jennings for that game.

There will be about as much AIDS in this game as in this picture:

Thought Nelson was coming back off bye week?

Edit: Yah. Still goes to show how much Detroit has improved in last month i guess

seems about right to me

Rick Reilly time!

i think i would base entertainment factor as a simple WAR-based concept: assume everyone has the same backup (the tebow clause) would i still watch this team play if x qb was out. as such:

1. Eli Manning, New York Giants

when eli's on, he's ****ing awesome. when eli's off, he's ****ing awesome. for better or worse you're going to get one hell of a show watching him gunsling

2. Peyton Manning, Denver Broncos

only thing that stops GOAT from the 1 spot is that every play goes down to the final 3 seconds on the play clock before he snaps. half the game in real time is being spent watching him audible. **** that noise. that said, GOAT

3. Mark Sanchez, New York Jets

the new york jets' sole function on this earth is to serve as a travelling circus. that circus starts and stops with sanchize, inarguably the worst QB ever to hold an uninterrupted starting job with the same team for > 3 years.

4. Jay Cutler, Chicago Bears



t5. Andrew Luck, Indianapolis Colts

both of the rookies deserve to be up here. luck may very well win the MVP in his rookie year (still darkhorse, but half a season to go), and in only one year has shown his status as GOAT-in-training is well deserved

t5. Robert Griffin III, Washington Redskins

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkqCpCaXTjo

human highlight reel. like luck will shoot up the rankings over his career

7. Aaron Rodgers, Green Bay Packers

he suffers a bit in the rankings from terrible commercials and matt flynn. like several others, he may be an excellent qb, but i would still watch packers games even if rodgers weren't qb'ing.

8. Dru Bree, New Orleans Saints

see Rodgers, word-for-word

9. Tony Romo, Dallas Cowboys

like eli manning, can be elite when he's on and can be a complete trainwreck when he's not. unlike eli manning, i'd still probably watch dallas cowboys games without romo just to point and laugh at them

10. Cam Newton, Carolina Panthers

Stupid books won't let us tease KC and the under.

What were the lines for Steelers-Titans and Steelers-Raiders?

da fuq, no.

Sanchize too high vick too low. If we combine 2p2 in the entertainment value then SCAM way too low because of dkgo. He really puts it over the top.

Cutler is a pretty clear #1

yea, seems like a 7-6 games is not super unlikely.

Except for Jets/Titans rest of MNF is gonna be mega-elite.

And this game tonight might still bring the lulz.

Berman apologizes for an MNF graphic "Roethlisberger Drink and Drunk." Seems like they nailed it no need to apologize bro.

http://deadspin.com/5959978/chris-be...ium=socialflow

In consideration for MVP... Yeah ok

3.5 road faves is a pretty big favorite.

oh he isn't? why's that exactly?

I guess it depends on your definition of "in consideration." He's probably top 10, but not top 5.

Just in case anyone was thinking of taking the Chiefs and the points, Todd Haley, whom Scott Pioli fired halfway through the season last year, is now the Steelers OC.

He might have some incentive to run up the score a little bit.

well let's say the season ended right now

1. ryan or peyton
3. watt or rodgers

after that it's pretty wide open, and the colts are essentially the same team as last year's 2-14 team with a downgrade at WR, and luck has them at 6-3, and a fluke last second gabbert td pass away from 7-2. i don't think saying luck is in the conversation is that incredulous right now

its gonna be a monsoon

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