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08-27-2024 , 06:33 AM

#20301

Paasei

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Originally Posted by Masq

Which 10? The division looks a bit dead to me.

1. DDP (current champ)
2. Strickland ( #1 contender)
3. Whittaker (probably gets titleshot after Khamzat win)
4. Adesanya (star power, always 1 win away from titleshot)
5. Khamzat (if he beats Whittaker, always been favored by the UFC)
6. Imavov (ranked #4)
7. Brendan Allen (7-fight win streak)
8. Borralho ( Ranked #5 and 7-fight win streak, undefeated in UFC)
9. Winner of Michael Pereira - Fluffy (both big win streak)
10. Bo Nickal (Dana White privilege and best wrassler in division?)

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09-10-2024 , 11:54 PM

#20302

Dubnjoy000

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Madlex, thoughts on Omalley vs Merab??? The line I get at my sportsbook is 1.76x for Omalley, which I am leaning. Also 3x for Omalley by KO, thoughts???

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09-11-2024 , 09:08 AM

#20303

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Originally Posted by Dubnjoy000

Madlex, thoughts on Omalley vs Merab??? The line I get at my sportsbook is 1.76x for Omalley, which I am leaning. Also 3x for Omalley by KO, thoughts???

I bought O'Malley at 2.1x (+110) early on. Pretty small bet though. Had I bought more I would hedge with Merab at 2.10x right now for the guaranteed win.

3x O'Malley KO looks good, DK has that at +150 = 2.5x right now. Elephant in the room is the +400 O'Malley by decision which might be closer to +800 if roles were reversed.

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09-11-2024 , 08:49 PM

#20304

Dubnjoy000

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Originally Posted by madlex

Thx friend, as always, it is greatly appreciated

Spoiler:

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09-14-2024 , 09:57 PM

#20305

newguyhere

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that Aldana / Dumont fight was nice

don't think I've seen a fighter (Dumont) be on their heels the entire fight and still dominate.

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09-14-2024 , 10:51 PM

#20306

NotReddBoiler

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Just put the money on O'Malley right?

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09-14-2024 , 10:57 PM

#20307

Dgoat

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Originally Posted by NotReddBoiler

Just put the money on O'Malley right?

I think it’s O’Malley by Ko or Merab by decision .

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09-14-2024 , 11:31 PM

#20308

Chilltown

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Ngl this Sphere **** is highly entertaining.

Looks cool af.

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09-15-2024 , 01:26 AM

#20309

g-bebe

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Sphere looks unbelievable.

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09-15-2024 , 01:53 AM

#20310

roymunson888

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merab has pillow hands, pretty boring

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09-15-2024 , 03:11 AM

#20311

Onlydo2days

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if belal and merab are the future of the UFC, they may have to look at some rule changes

if bones retires after stipe, they won't have 1 US born champ

could see omalley just moving up to 145 and fighting guys like max, volk to make money...doubt he can get that much better grappling to beat merab/usman anytime soon

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09-15-2024 , 07:32 AM

#20312

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Originally Posted by Onlydo2days

if bones retires after stipe, they won't have 1 US born champ

Belal is from Chicago. (And Pennington is US born, too).

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09-15-2024 , 10:47 AM

#20313

g-bebe

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O'Malley getting outwrestled in a rout was the opposite of the decision UFC wanted.

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09-15-2024 , 12:54 PM

#20314

Chilltown

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Originally Posted by Onlydo2days

Wrestling is back.

Which sucks cause it is by far the most boring mma.

What was the deal with Herb in the main event. Yelling at everyone lol.

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09-15-2024 , 03:58 PM

#20315

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Originally Posted by Chilltown

What was the deal with Herb in the main event. Yelling at everyone lol.

Man shouldnt'a done that kissin'

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09-15-2024 , 04:57 PM

#20316

Chilltown

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That was fine.

But Herb yelling work at the dude when he was on top was weird.

Was it this thread when someone said "they should never stand them up"?

Cause that's one of the jew Joe Rogan points I agree with.

If a dude can lay on you for 25 mins and you can't get up then tough **** that's a loss.

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09-15-2024 , 10:35 PM

#20317

Onlydo2days

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yeah herb was telling them to keep working when merab was circling omalley up 3-1 or 4-0 in the 5th like he knew omalley losing was bad for the brand as well

bizarre stuff from him

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09-16-2024 , 04:07 AM

#20318

Rooksx

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Originally Posted by Onlydo2days

Every round starts on the feet, no kicks or knees to the head are allowed against a grounded opponent (albeit the definition of 'grounded' is changing soon) and the referee will stand them up if not much is happening. The rules are already weighted in favour of strikers.

The MMA meta will keep changing. O'Malley discovered too late that front kicks to the body work well against Merab. Future opponents will target Merab's midsection, he'll get winded and not look so tireless, the knockout will come.

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09-23-2024 , 04:27 PM

#20319

catangod

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I'm not sure I'm willing to say "discovered too late front kicks work vs Merab"

Would be like saying Leon "found out head kicks work vs Kamaru"

He was terrified of throwing kicks early on in the fight for threat of the takedown. It was not part of the game plan.

It's a lot easier to find success and get going on the feet when your opponent is up multiple rounds and coasting. Especially vs a wrestler who may be doing risk analysis of shooting in the final round and walking into a knee or guillotine.

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10-04-2024 , 10:33 AM

#20320

Masq

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Rountree for the upset against Alex?

I feel that Alex is very untested on the ground. He has some good BJJ people in his camp but we've never seen it put to the test.

Rountree does have some power in his hands but i'm not convinced he's got an edge in a striking battle. Really depends whether Rountree decides to keep it on the feet or not.

I might chuck a little money on the underdog.

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10-04-2024 , 10:49 AM

#20321

newguyhere

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Rountree is strong AF

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10-04-2024 , 11:06 AM

#20322

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That grip strength is crazy.
Some recorded ones - https://grippermania.ru/gm150/ranking#m-ab
Obviously mainly Russians/Eastern Euros but gives an idea.

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10-04-2024 , 11:18 AM

#20323

Masq

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Didn't Eddie Hall break the grip strength test?

Either way, a strong grip doesn't translate to winning in MMA.

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10-04-2024 , 11:47 AM

#20324

Alpha Fish

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Originally Posted by thethethe

That grip strength is crazy.
Some recorded ones - https://grippermania.ru/gm150/ranking#m-ab
Obviously mainly Russians/Eastern Euros but gives an idea.

so they both pull roughly on par with a top ranked 75kg woman?

Cool