I think a Silva/Weidman situation? Credit to Pena for biting down on her mouth guard and trading and showing she had more heart.

I hate chalking any sporting event up to intangibles but Nunes did not seem like she wanted it. Complacency likely set in given she hasn't had a challenger in awhile.

Poirier screwed himself by rolling into Olives guard when Olives was holding his gloves, who knows, maybe he had motivation issues as well. Can't fight McGregor for the 4th time if your the champ really.

Nunez is just a bit overrated - she’s better than everyone but not by miles. If cyborg wasn’t booted for looking like wanderlei Silva in a dress she’d be a favourite in their rematch.


Ffs - Draft kings was selling Not pena within distance for -50,000… imagine paying that kind of a vig on literally anything. The opportunity cost of having the money tied up for a few weeks is almost more than what you win.



the oliveira inside the distance line was super juicy. Some sites were laying more than +300 for a while lolwtfbbq. My biggest play in a long time.


Unfortunately my fading of Sean O’Malley has once again failed me but on the plus side the next time I fade him I’ll get an even better price. Broken chicken legs count as a tko win for the other guy. Paiva by TKO/KO was as high as +1200… ****, I’d take O’Malley’s ankle breaks at +1200.

Of course it was a surprise but I wouldn't say super shocking. A lot of us thought Juliana Pena would develop into a future champ way back in the day when Nunes was still pretty mediocre. However, Nunes surprised to the upside and took her career to the moon while Pena was never able to fulfill her potential.

Personally, I didn't think Pena earned her title shot but she certainly made the most of it.

As for what happened, it looked like Pena played with fire, took Nunes's shots and then Nunes gassed. I wouldn't have thought that Pena would beat her standing but it's not like Nunes is the most incredible striker either. Don't get me wrong, Nunes is very good on the feet and very good on the ground, but she isn't the best at either. For example, Germaine De Randamie is a way better striker than Nunes but was just too one dimensional to have much of a shot vs Nunes.

I'm glad that Shevchenko will now be #1 P4P female. As dominant as Nunes has been at 135lbs, I think Shevchenko is even more dominant at 125lbs.

So that his chin could become even more shot? Weight wise he actually looked ok at 125lbs. He really should hang it up now though. Hopefully he can get into coaching or something but he is kind of a dummy.

His performance vs Dominic Cruz is one of the most impressive performances in UFC history. Since then it's been all downhill (1 Win 5 Losses). Whether he wants to hang it up or not the UFC should definitely cut him.

He took a lot of clean shots - his chin may be bad but most would be put down by the shots he took.

If you canned everyone whose unlikely to ever fight for a title you’d have to cut 2/3rds of the roster. They’ll probably let him be a stepping stone for some borderline unranked guy on the come up. Then they can hype them up as having beaten the former champion.

Sure, Cody thinks just moving his head back when he is backed up against the fence is a viable defense against a swarming fighter. Kai Kara France is supposed to be a great knockout artist but this was only his 2nd stoppage win in 8 UFC fights. He's gone to a decision 5 times.

These days everyone seems to have hands of steel when they fight Cody. Who would you like see knock him out next? I suppose they could have him fight the Sugar Show but aside from that matchup he's not really even worth his relatively high salary just to build someone up off his name.

Even watching the trash talk between Garbrandt and O'Malley was sad. Sugar Show made fun of Cody for only having 1 win in 5 years and Cody could only stammer and pretty much insinuated that at least he used to be a good fighter.

The quality of the striking in Nunes-Pena was pathetic, amateurish stuff. Defence seemed like a foreign concept to both of them.

anyone see Pena press conf? She talked about how she heard Nunes hadn't been training much, basically confirming a lot of what I said above. Seemed just mentally checked out with the sport, and I do agree that Nunes was always slightly overrated because 135 sucked compared to say 115.

Shevchenko has always been slightly better than Nunes imo

Based on what Juliana Pena said, we can surmise that she ran into Dan Lambert at the Houston Event on August 7th after she heard that Nunes wasn't training. Nunes then posted a video showing her training on August 8th. It's probably a safe assumption that Amanda did train for the 4 months leading up to this fight.

In my eyes, if she didn't train hard for this fight that would be more damning to her legacy than putting 100% into it and losing fair and square.

As of today, Amanda Nunes is the greatest female fighter in the 9 year history of women fighting in the UFC. It will be interesting to see how she stacks up in 20 years.

People way overreacting ITT, Nunes will destroy Pena is a rematch imo, she is the goat but it's hard to stay motivated when you've already accomplished everything. She should just take her belt back and retire.

meh, she's 33, mother, rich

we've heard xyz great champ will crush the rematch before....Silva, Penn

She'll probably be like -280 for the rematch, Pena is a pretty flawed fighter but seems to matchup well with Nunes.

Figueiredo

Had he won that bet he could have bought a new Prius. Instead he's out $318k.

Yeh I don't bet, but I can't think off the top of my head of many sports worse to bet on a 'sure thing' in - with potential freak injuries, lucky KO's/submissions, etc.

Just rewatched the Poirier vs Alvarez no contest from UFC 211. For some reason I'm always running into people that think Alvarez was winning that fight prior to throwing illegal knees. That was not the case whatsoever. Poirier won round 1 10-9 (not debatable) and was winning round 2 10-8 (also not debatable). It was a complete ass whooping and I don't know why it ended up as a NC rather than a DQ but that is one of the biggest travesties in UFC history.

BTW, Alvarez has been fairing very poorly since leaving the UFC. 1 win in 4 contests including whining to get a DQ changed to a NC after throwing shots to the back of his opponent's head.

Thought I posted this at the time but guess not, Chucky Olives clearly should've called out Khabib after his win.

Doesn't wanna make money? Even if he says no, makes you look more legit. Eyy little Khabib don't wanna wrestle a real grappler?

Colby only 1 who knows how to promote **** in UFC right now

It seems to be kinda hard for the non-English speakers to talk much trash. In the past I've suggested that fighters should have managers to talk crap for them, like Paul Heyman in WWE.

I think it would be a mistake to call out Khabib. Khabib will not take the fight, so you're just opening up the door for Khabib's protege Islam Makhachev, who is the toughest fight in the division, to jump to the front of the line. Conor's name has been floating around as a possible opponent for Olivera. As stupid as that would be, that's the fight Olivera should be trying to get. $$$

I know UFC has done some crazy things before (Dan Henderson getting the Bisping title shot) but I can't imagine they let Conor fight Oliviera for the belt.

And it isn't like Conor/Olives sells more than Conor vs whatever other fight he takes anyway so no real need for Dana to make a mockery of the belt like that.

I agree that Conor doesn't need to fight for the belt to sell PPVs but if that's who Conor wants to fight next then he could potentially get that fight. Dana has no qualms about cheapening the belt.

I do think more likely though is that Conor will get a non-title fight first and then if he wins he will get a title fight if he wants it. I think a fight vs Chandler would make a lot of sense for his next fight. If Conor were to lose, then he could fight Nate.

Thoughts on Francis/Gane?

little surprised to see Gane as the slight fav (-125)

Unless UFC plans on drugging Ngannou like Foreman in Zaire, I have a hard time seeing anyone that isn't going to wrestle/grapple him to death deserving to be a fav over him.

I see Gane as a favorite. He thinks he can manage Ngannou's power and I have no reason to doubt that. The longer the fight goes, the more of a favorite Gane will be.

If I'm Ngannou, I'd take some chances ala his fight vs Rozenstruik. If he sits on the outside and allows this to become a kick boxing match then he'll probably get picked apart.

Is Gane really so technical that this doesn't turn into a firefight with 4oz gloves? Ngannou gets into power exchanges where his guns are bigger than your guns and you go to sleep.

Gane power didn't look great vs Lewis, I mean this isn't 135 pounds here. This is about landing and blasting a mother****er to the moooooooooon, Ngannou is the GOAT at that.

Derrick Lewis has the most KO's in UFC history and we saw how little he did to Gane. Ngannou has more reach than Lewis but Gane has excellent movement, is great at keeping distance and is the more technical striker. Ngannou is going to have to make it a fire fight and that's not going to be easy. Of course Ngannou has ridiculous power and could KO Gane early in the fight but it doesn't seem super likely to me.