Drogo, you are correct. Weidman should have been checked by the ringside ref, as he was, then assessed if he could continue or not. Still, changing the assessment from am illegal to a legal blow due to instant replay is not allowed afaik.

DI is correct, assuming it's a 5 round fight:

Thanks, I wasn't sure whether or not the abbreviated round was scored.

I'm pretty sure it isn't allowed either but as I said, I don't think it was due to instant replay. I'm sure I heard someone shouting to the ref that it was a legal blow, someone who he believed since he immediately went to Weidman after that and told him it was legal. I don't think that should have happened but once it does happen what do we do? Beats me. Only good thing out of the mess is it seems like the right result to me even if we got to it the wrong way.

Big John (McCarthy) was telling Miragliotta it was a legal blow.

He did a double take and asked him to clarify again.

But hadn't Big John seen a replay?

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dunno if its true but i read mousasi is payed like 100k for the fight, i eamn so little imo ( including training camp weeks, trainers i guess, is no working while he trains right and what happen if he gets seriously hurts ?

was like only 10k from reebok ? lol....

hope those number are not right.

he made 110 total for his previous fight, and was complaining that lolHunt was paid something like 700

I imagine this win earned him at least 300-400K

Kind of excited for UFC 211.

6 fights that I want to see, well at least 1 of the fighters in the bout.

Rockhold said hes accepted taking Gastelums spot vs Silva in Brazil and it is on Anderson to accept it now

Dana said he doesn't think they will do Mousasi/Weidman again because Mousasi was on his way to winning lol. I mean he was winning rd 2 but fight was still very much up in the air.

mousasi was on his way to winning, but so was chris in the first round. Doesn't mean the fight was over..

Weidman wasn't making it out of the second round after those knees to the head.

The doctors ruled that Weidman couldn't continue. The fight was effectively over after those knees.

The Commission has said that the use of instant replay was legal.

I think Rogan influenced their decision to make the determination that the knee was legal. Everyone was just kinda tarding around and Rogan goes full psycho, like actually screaming, that the knee was legal then they change the call.

The call itself was very close but even as Chris was "playing the game" with his hands on the mat, Gerard was also risking a dq throwimg that knee so it goes both ways

I thought first knee was legal, second was clearly illegal. Since Weidman was kinda being shady about it the ref should have just stood them up imo after second knee.

But on a technicality yeah Weidman should get the decision. His last 4 fights Weidman has been battered I really think he should retire. He's going to have CTE if he keeps it up.

It wasn't.

The rule is the fist has to be down, of the palm of the hand. Fingers touching doesn't count as downed.

here is a gif of second knee so people can analyze

I don't see how you can overturn that

It just reaffirms what I said already.

His fist or palm wasn't on the ground, so he wasn't a grounded fighter.
There isn't really much to analyze - it's clear cut.

...his fists are clearly on the ground.

Cmon. Even if you are saying both fists were on the ground at one point, which they were not, they clearly are not well before the knee makes contact.

Regardless. The reason the rule says fists or palms is because it is intended to protect a fighter who had weight on their hands and can't protect themselves. It's not a safe zone in capture the flag, and it certainly is not a dirty move to try to knee in that position.

This argument is stupid and anyone saying it should have been a dq based on this is acting like a silly pathetic fan boy.

ETA: also, Weidman got a w once for getting kicked in the knee so hard by AS it snapped his own leg. He has run okay. The stoppage was probably a good idea for his health if the doctor thought he was hurt bad enough. And the other thing is that was probably not going to be the last knee in that exchange so thinking in terms of him having a shot if he was allowed to continue still is giving him an unfair and unearned advantage.

Yeah that gif shows that at the very best Weidman's left hand was only fingertips at the time of the knee which is neither fist nor palm. Knee was 100% legal and the controversary is only about what happened after the knee.

Knee was legal. Real question is is Mirgs allowed to have his mind changed.

Sure, his hands are clearly on the ground. And then they're not anymore. And then he gets kneed in the head.

And as JT said, the spirit of the rule is to try and protect the fighter, not create some angle shoot where the fighter's playing patty cake with the ground in an attempt to momentarily render knee strikes "illegal". That plus the whole incident afterwards where Weidman's corner is telling him to milk the injury b/c at first the strike was deemed illegal, then his amazing recovery once he finds out the strike is legal leave a bad taste in my mouth.

I think you need to go to specsavers, or learn the difference between fist, palm and fingers