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01-29-2017 , 06:31 PM
Does CM have a UFC contract?
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01-29-2017 , 06:38 PM
Yeah, he is under contract with UFC.

Obviously him and Floyd have the dick measuring issues when it comes to the purse, but that can be solved. Him being under contract with UFC is a big holdup for the fight happening.
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01-29-2017 , 06:44 PM
Any evidence of how many fights might be left on Conor's contract?
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01-29-2017 , 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Onlydo2days
Yeah, he is under contract with UFC.

Obviously him and Floyd have the dick measuring issues when it comes to the purse, but that can be solved. Him being under contract with UFC is a big holdup for the fight happening.
The UFC have already made him a $25 million offer to fight Mayweather.

Conor said yesterday that he and the UFC have done great business in the past, and he wants them involved with the Mayweather fight.

Him being under contract with the UFC is not a big holdup for the fight happening.
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01-29-2017 , 06:51 PM
If the UFC wasn't an obstacle then the fight would be made already I'm sure.

Without the UFC, he doesn't need to be made an offer and cut in a % of the profits.

Him and Floyd just split 250 mill and call it a day.
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01-29-2017 , 07:00 PM
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Any evidence of how many fights might be left on Conor's contract?
He's under contract as long as he's champ.
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01-29-2017 , 07:03 PM
Floyd isn't splitting ***** with CM, probably closer to 80/20 than 50/50.
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01-29-2017 , 07:22 PM
Tough to say how it shakes down at the end of negotiations.

Floyd needs CM more than vice versa. Can't make huge $ for sparring vs anyone else.

If CM had his "freedom" to negotiate so to speak, he could probably pull a lot of boxers his way and take most of the purse. He talked about fighting Pacquaio instead of Floyd in that interview because he has all the leverage. He is basically right.

I liked his dig at Nate too. Why you being Floyd's bitch Nate?
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01-29-2017 , 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Onlydo2days
Tough to say how it shakes down at the end of negotiations.

Floyd needs CM more than vice versa. Can't make huge $ for sparring vs anyone else.

If CM had his "freedom" to negotiate so to speak, he could probably pull a lot of boxers his way and take most of the purse. He talked about fighting Pacquaio instead of Floyd in that interview because he has all the leverage. He is basically right.

I liked his dig at Nate too. Why you being Floyd's bitch Nate?
Do you really believe what you wrote???

You think Floyd Mayweather will split that money with a UFC fighter that has no buisness sharing a ring with him and who would get beat by every fighter FM has ever fought? Paq I don't think got 50/50 and he is one of the all time great boxers. CM is a joke in the boxing world. Thinking Floyd would split any of his fights money 50/50 vs anyone is laughable, and completely ignorant.

CM has zero leverage except he is the clown in the circus show that this fight would be. I guess he has all the leverage if he wants to get his @ss kicked by some other boxer. CM needs FM, how you think otherwise is scary, Conor can go make $10 million vs his next UFC guy or make 2-3 times that vs FM, but Conor will never see the type of money ever for one fight like he would vs Floyd.
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01-29-2017 , 08:53 PM
Why don't you think he could make big money for facing Manny Pacquaio or another fighter?

It is probably only 1 time and because of the novelty, but as long as he doesn't fight a complete tomato can the PPV with him boxing is going to likely do pretty well.

Floyd's last fight vs Berto did 400k. If he wants to fight someone where he has a 99% chance to win and make tons of $, CM is pretty much the only game in town.

And I don't know about 50/50 but it will be more than 80/20 if CM ever gets his boxing license, because again, he could just box someone else and make money

How does he have 0 leverage when he is the only fighter on the planet that Floyd can sell a PPV with and be 100% to win? Why do you think Floyd wants the fight so bad? Because he knows it would be the easiest $ ever. And CM and his people know he knows that.
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01-29-2017 , 09:00 PM
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You think Floyd Mayweather will split that money with a UFC fighter that has no buisness sharing a ring with him and who would get beat by every fighter FM has ever fought? Paq I don't think got 50/50 and he is one of the all time great boxers. CM is a joke in the boxing world. Thinking Floyd would split any of his fights money 50/50 vs anyone is laughable, and completely ignorant.
It was 60/40.

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Why don't you think he could make big money for facing Manny Pacquaio or another fighter?
He can't.

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It is probably only 1 time and because of the novelty, but as long as he doesn't fight a complete tomato can the PPV with him boxing is going to likely do pretty well.

Floyd's last fight vs Berto did 400k. If he wants to fight someone where he has a 99% chance to win and make tons of $, CM is pretty much the only game in town.

And I don't know about 50/50 but it will be more than 80/20 if CM ever gets his boxing license, because again, he could just box someone else and make money
More likely 60/20/20 and that's too light for the UFC.

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How does he have 0 leverage when he is the only fighter on the planet that Floyd can sell a PPV with and be 100% to win? Why do you think Floyd wants the fight so bad? Because he knows it would be the easiest $ ever. And CM and his people know he knows that.
Floyd's leverage likely correlates with how much of his wealth he's retained.
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01-29-2017 , 09:06 PM
If CM fought Pacquaio you don't think that would sell a ton of PPV's?

I know it is on UFC cards but him fighting Eddie Alvarez and Nate Diaz sells 1.5M range. Manny is a much bigger star than both of them combined with the novelty of boxing. I think they would get 2M PPV's.
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01-29-2017 , 09:12 PM
If Conor boxed Manny it would prbly get like 800k.
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01-29-2017 , 09:19 PM
Nah, I think it does 2M.

ESPN, FS1 and all those stupid talking head shows would be all over it non-stop for weeks.
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01-29-2017 , 09:23 PM
Floyd's only major financial responsibility on fight night is to Al Haymon (for around 10% if his recent lawsuit is to be believed). Other than that he retains a huge share of the PPV money and the gate.

Conor gets whatever the UFC gives him, and his biggest payday thus far is probably between $5-20M. Floyd will make more than that fighting another can for 350k buys.

If he fights Manny, which would be fantastic for those of us that dislike Conor, he will still sell a ton of PPVs, but Floyd is the obvious top fight here.

Conor has very little leverage assuming Floyd isn't legit broke.
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01-29-2017 , 09:24 PM
Manny does zero of the lifting in the buildup to the fight. Floyd and Conor will build that thing.

There's other narratives that differ too. Obv the undefeated record is key.
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01-29-2017 , 09:31 PM
I know Floyd got 30M for his fight with Berto but it was a huge flop and I believe a big loser overall financially. I don't think he can make 25+ with 400k buys going forward (although it is possible people may tune in to see an older Floyd fight thinking he can lose)

Not sure what he makes if he fights some bum and gets 400 buys but I don't think it is more than CM will get in the UFC going forward since I'm sure CM is going to be getting a big piece of PPV going forward.
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01-29-2017 , 09:50 PM
Floyd scared 1/28/2017

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cvz-mLgWqyU
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01-30-2017 , 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Onlydo2days
If CM fought Pacquaio you don't think that would sell a ton of PPV's?

I know it is on UFC cards but him fighting Eddie Alvarez and Nate Diaz sells 1.5M range. Manny is a much bigger star than both of them combined with the novelty of boxing. I think they would get 2M PPV's.
Yeah but the thing is , a lot of the UFC fans would not pay 50-60$ for a ppv for Conor vs Floyd because we all know Connor would get destroy ....

Granted there would have lot of suckers but I really doubt Connor would reach the same ppv range.
Unless lot of fans of the boxing world would just like to pay that amount to see Conor get his a$$ kicked ....
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01-30-2017 , 05:34 PM
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Yeah but the thing is , a lot of the UFC fans would not pay 50-60$ for a ppv for Conor vs Floyd because we all know Connor would get destroy ....

Granted there would have lot of suckers but I really doubt Connor would reach the same ppv range.
Unless lot of fans of the boxing world would just like to pay that amount to see Conor get his a$$ kicked ....
That's what I thought when I first heard about it. But I think it was the wrong way to look at it.

If these two fought, it would be all over ESPN, FS1, social media, etc etc for months.

It isn't about "MMA fans" or "boxing fans", it is about your regular casual sports fan and hearing about 2 stars going at it in a unique bout and the media shoving it down our throats.

I think it easily does Canelo/Floyd #'s and probably gets close to Floyd/Pac.
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01-31-2017 , 11:02 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJT-JsDPbac

This Chael/Askren pod talking about the Ali act and the push by MMA fighters to add MMA to it was pretty good I thought.

Askren said him, Couture, Fitch and some others have been on capital hill pitching to congress lately.

Obviously typical since Conor mentioned it as his avenue to fight Floyd if UFC doesn't want to play nice.
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02-01-2017 , 01:14 AM
Dana said and I'm paraphrasing "Ronda is probably retired, she's gonna move to bum**** nowhere and live out her life".

Like WTF does that mean? Ronda going off the grid forever. He actually said she's gonna "move somewhere desolate" which idk i guess she's gonna move to a trailer park in the desert.
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02-01-2017 , 02:46 AM
it's kind sad how mentally fragile Ronda was. There's no reason she couldn't have learned striking from a real coach, become a killer, dominated WMMA for several more years (or at least been top 3-5 for many years) and made gorillions of dollars.

Instead Edmund ****in' Tarverdyan happened.
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02-01-2017 , 11:12 AM
Fwiw she said she has bad arthritis in her knees, don't think she was long or the sport either way. Especially given all the $ in her bank account and the fact she doesn't live like Floyd Mayweather.
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02-04-2017 , 10:45 PM
ugh hard to watch that. Corner needs to step in and not let him come back out for the 2nd rd.
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