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07-04-2010 , 01:08 AM

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07-04-2010 , 01:09 AM

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Submission: Brock Lesnar

What a joke.

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07-04-2010 , 01:13 AM

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mma.tv and the UG have exploded.

Every thread is a battle between "Brock was EXPOSED" and "If that didn't beat him, Brock is gonna beat anyone alive ever"

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07-04-2010 , 01:14 AM

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lesner is ****ed

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07-04-2010 , 01:17 AM

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oh snap, he's finished

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07-04-2010 , 01:22 AM

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Also, a funny anecdote.

Brock files paperwork before every fight to request that Mazzagatti not referee his fight. He seriously hates him from the Mir fight.

And you know what? If Maz had been reffing this fight, Shane would be champ. I though Josh Rosenthal did a terrific job and deserves credit for letting Brock ride out the storm. Clearly Lesnar wasn't hurt enough to stop the fight but a lot of refs would have stopped it.

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07-04-2010 , 01:25 AM

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BLAST!

Oh well, Velasquez-Lesnar should be awesome.

Things I learned:
1) Lesnar's striking is awful.
2) Lesnar has an iron chin.
3) Carwin, unsurprisingly, has a poor gas tank.

VERY good chance Velasquez-Lesnar goes 5 rounds.

Carwin west the test for Lesnar's chin. Lesnar passed.
Velasquez will be the test for Lesnar's gas tank.

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07-04-2010 , 01:28 AM

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what exactly did mazz do to offend him?

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07-04-2010 , 01:29 AM

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Here's the other thing:

If THAT can't KO Lesnar, wtf on this earth will?

I mean, there's not a guy with heavier fists on the planet. At least for a first round, I would rank Carwin above even Fedor for pure power and viciousness. And Brock survived it.

How in the world are you going to ever KO Brock? Shane was pretty close, but damn. I don't know what's more impressive, the finish or the beating he survived.

It was a very impressive win, but Carwin lost because he gassed. Not saying Brock won't be in better shape 4 months from now though.

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07-04-2010 , 01:30 AM

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i wouldn't overemphasize the 1 minute of standup you saw in this fight. I feel like "Brock's standup is terrible" is going to be the new meme, and it's not true.

Shane has better stand up than Lesnar, but that doesn't mean Lesnar's is awful, because Shane's standup is in the top 90% or 95% of the HW division.

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07-04-2010 , 01:31 AM

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IMO, no way it should have been stopped in the first. I was a little concerned that it would be stopped, but I saw that Lesnar still had his wits as he was covering up pretty well. Lesnar is a beast and his heart is just as big.

Anyone else thought that carwin was gassed after the 1st? I also thought that the longer it went it would favour Lesnar.

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07-04-2010 , 01:31 AM

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Honestly, what would be Fedor's path to victory?

not gassing after one round

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07-04-2010 , 01:31 AM

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what exactly did mazz do to offend him?

He stopped Brock while Brock was pounding the **** out of Mir in their first fight on a questionable back of the head call. Brock also felt Maz took too long to stop the fight when Brock tapped.

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07-04-2010 , 01:32 AM

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not gassing after one round

I don't think Fedor can stop the first takedown the way that Carwin did, so would he even be in the position to stand with Lesnar?

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07-04-2010 , 01:34 AM

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Lesnar's prob got good enough striking to keep his opponent honest. It looks bad, but I think it's effective. However, I think it's just a set-up to get you on the ground, because once he has good position on you, he knows what to do.

One other thing, to see that Lesnar's come along this far in less than 10 MMA fights, it's just amazing. Sure he's got the size advantage, etc, but I think you got to give credit when credit is due. Brock's fun to watch because he's a heavyweight that moves like he's 100 pounds lighter. Plus, he's going to continue to improve.

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07-04-2010 , 01:34 AM

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It was a very impressive win, but Carwin lost because he gassed. Not saying Brock won't be in better shape 4 months from now though.

I'm not disagreeing with this. But Brock taking that much punishment is amazing. If there's a hypothetical fighter out there that can stop Brock's takedowns, has as much power as Carwin, and won't gas, that guy can beat Brock. But right now that's just a hypothetical guy.

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07-04-2010 , 01:35 AM

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I don't think Fedor can stop the first takedown the way that Carwin did, so would he even be in the position to stand with Lesnar?

Fedor is skilled no doubt, but he's not superhuman. I doubt he'd be able to stop Lesnar's takedown. IMO, he's just too small. It would be a GnP victory for Brock, IMO. Sorta like the Rogers fight, but Lesnar would get the job done.

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07-04-2010 , 01:45 AM

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I don't think Fedor can stop the first takedown the way that Carwin did, so would he even be in the position to stand with Lesnar?

That was an impressive stop by Carwin, which Fedor would have trouble duplicating, but I still don't think it's some kind of guarantee that Brock can keep him there once he gets him down. This fight didn't really say much in that regard because Carwin was already gassed.

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Well, they shouldn't need as much power as Carwin. Cain may be interesting because we know how good his cardio is, and the two great wrestlers Brock has faced have had success stopping his takedowns. Course, I don't even know if Cain has the stand up advantage.

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07-04-2010 , 01:48 AM

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btw, I agree with Brock taking that kind of punishment being just insane, I thought for sure he was done when he was put in that position

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07-04-2010 , 01:54 AM

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FRATE TRANE

i tap.

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07-04-2010 , 01:59 AM

#1196

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OHHHH BROCK LESNAR IS A BIG BAD MAN

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07-04-2010 , 02:03 AM

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Damn I so wanted to buy this tonight. I'm not a huge MMA fan but I had seen one of Lesnar's fights before and I could tell he was sick. Wanted to see how he would do tonight after that illness and against this Carwin dude.

Couple nights ago we were watching a preview and they showed Carwin for a couple minutes all impressive then they showed Lesnar and my wife was like "Oh my god, he has to beat that guy???" lol.

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07-04-2010 , 02:41 AM

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Great fight.

Carwin had one plan - to finish Brock in round 1 and he came oh so close.

But Lesnar has the heart of a lion and weathered the storm and managed to submit a clearly exhausted Carwin in round 2.
TBH I think Carwin could barely stand up after the first round. AFAIK he still works as an engineer during the day so he's only a part time fighter in essence.

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07-04-2010 , 02:44 AM

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unbelievable

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07-04-2010 , 03:37 AM

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carwin is better, he has more upside, he will win a rematch. lesnar earned it, but much like mir tapping lesnar in a fight that lesnar had been dominating, carwin dominated lesnar but got caught, it happens. lesnar will beat cain(good fighter just not on this level quite yet), then there will be a rematch, in which carwin will destroy him like he was doing in the first round. the first round was great, i don't think anyone expected to see lesnar get totally owned like that, carwin just didn't have enough to finish the job.

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