http://www.fightsaga.com/news/item/5...vious-mismatch

I wonder if it's a possibility now?

RT, (I know I'm addressing you this entire post, stop distracting me)

Is it really THAT unfathomable that Conor could land a left like Mosley's right?

Is giving Conor somewhere between a 3-6% chance THAT crazy? I guess you're not a total believer in his power to really speak to it I guess (to my satisfaction) if you nay-say, as I assume.

Sadly, who cares at this point. Roy's physical abilities have wasted away and Anderson is 40. I'd watch it if it were free.

Back when they were both in the Matrix...

This gif will show the same 1-2 both real speed and slowed, real speed is just not real at all:


And we all know Anderson:

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As always, the boxer wins the boxing match, the MMAist wins the MMA fight, but how cool would that have been.

Two things, first, they'll be wearing 8 oz. gloves, double the size the UFC uses. That matters. There's a reason we use 16 oz. gloves in training, and the heavier weight will blunt Conor's power. Secondly, Floyd is a remarkable gameplanner (not an easy thing for someone that's functionally illiterate). Were he to fight Conor, it's going to be the most conservative Floyd we've ever seen. Every punch Conor throws will be countered ruthlessly and he will feint and abuse Conor's tendency to rely on the left hand counter against advancing opponents.

Of course anything can happen when two men fight regardless of the rules, but the odds are so strongly stacked against Conor here it's not really funny.

On another note, let's put to bed the idea that I don't think Conor has power. I've said plenty that I think it's his best weapon, but it's not a binary thing. A fighter doesn't either have KO power or pillow hands, it's a spectrum. I think at 145, Conor's power is a 9 or 9.5 in so much as if he lands a left, especially a counter left, on the chin, it's lights out. At 155, his power may be a 8.

Because he's so limited in other areas, that distinction matters. If a good wrestler can get by a left hand shot or two and get him down, Conor is all but helpless.

I believe Conor has real power, I just think he's in big trouble with a limited tank and no high level ground game.

ok, thank you for the clarification. I don't think an 8 @ 155 is as much to quibble with.

curious to see who, if any, you'd have at a 9+ tho. I did say not a total believer in his power as well, which goes to my question.

ok, ya no argument against ... but again that's Anthony Johnson too

I'm not sure I'd rank anyone at 155 that high. RDA obviously has great power, but at any given time, there may not be someone with power that far away from the mean.

Funny thing about Rumble, he's lost five times. Four of those losses are to Rear Naked Chokes. It seems like the way to beat Rumble is to weather his power, the tire him out, then get him to the ground and dominate him.

Sound familiar?

The Diaz brothers are going on vacation probably forever. So I think now is time Conor gets down to 145 then approaches Floyd's camp.

Couple weeks ago, some people here were classifying CM has one of the top fighter in the world after his win vs Aldo.
I was not one of them but that is beside the point.

Wanting CM to fight for the title at 155 before he defends at 145 make no sense to me.
( imo, if people think CM should fight for the title at 155, doesnt it means they see him as a top fighter in the division ?)

Better fighter deserve that spot, especially taking into account CM never had 1 dam fight at 155...
I mean making that fight would be the same error UFC are making with Hendo and Bisping.

I am talking of course about legitimacy not about the best fight that would make the most money.

About the Aldo fight knowing what would happened...
After seeing the last 2 fights of Conor and the last fight for Aldo, pretty obvious Conor would not have enough in the gaz tank if he did not win in the first 2 rounds...
So if i am that wrong, seem you think CM is the favorite vs Aldo ?
that is great, hope a lot of people think like you, the odds will be great to bet on Aldo for me.

Btw for me , 1 win does not make it a carreer.

I love CM and i think is a great fighter but i would need a little bit more than putting him ahead of Aldo just yet.
That rematch is crucial, even more so after the domination of Aldo vs Edgar.
Edgar was destroying the division in the last 3 years before he met Aldo.

If you want Floyd vs Conor you have to make it kickboxing for it to be even close to a competition.

You should quote everyone that said Conor is the top fighter in the world so we can all laugh (I cant remember reading that itt).

I never said I think Conor>>>>>>>>>Aldo, I've honestly no idea same as everyone else. Bit hard to tell after 13 seconds who is best.

I did say Mc should fight at 155 like lots of others, only you have taken this to mean we have Conor at the top of 155. I said straight after the fight that Cowboy beats Conor and he isn't the top155'er lol. Also i'd rather 155 if he has to fight anywhere but 145.

Lol at deserve. Conor bringing all the eyes, everything he gets he deserves.

This and your OP are a nonsense replying to no one itt.

Tbh Montreal I most likely wouldn't have bothered replying to either of your posts if you had left out the crap about 'people here' 'some people are delusional' 'people itt' and just posted your opinion.

As it is everyone else just posting their thoughts while you want to call the thread out.

Btw conor just beat the #4 ranked 155lber, he's definitely amongst the best. The problem though is that the 15 in that division are all killers & the top 10 can & probably will pass that belt around the next few years as how close that division is in talent, thought RDA was going to be the one to distinguish himself from the pack but i was wrong.


p.s Mcgregor is a bad matchup for aldo, aldo loses again pretty easily in a rematch imo. Aldo boxing is rudimentary & Conor has too much reach & power on him, unless Aldo is going to use offensive wrestling to mix it up i don't give him much chance tbh.

i guess than i misread when SOME people ( which i was alluding to them not you but w.e) were calling CM one of the best p4p after his win vs aldo...

And dam right i believe someone who never fought in the 155 division do not deserve a title match...

just seeing Cerone below Diaz makes me chukle...
i would rather see a match vs cerone and CM than CM with a title shot for a real test before .

I mean, if 7-0 in UFC with 6 KO's and taking down a perennial division champion in 13 seconds doesn't get you p4p talk... what will?

Some people think the 13sec ko was legit , me i think it was a fluke for different reason.
Reason i am in favor for a rm before putting him in a p4p best.

Btw i totally agree with this, main reason i think he should at least fight 1 time in 155.
even anderson silva had to fight 1 time before facing rich franklin when he came in the ufc.
The way he won his first fight it was an easy call after that for the title shot

I wish he would just fight Aldo again. If he beats him the question is actually answered. The record does not prove ****, yet. He STILL has not faced his worst perceived match ups, offensive wrestlers. The closest was a last minute Chad and he looked **** until Chad gassed. The idea of him fighting gsp is laughable. The idea of Diaz being the worst possible match up for him is a joke. He thought he could knock out anyone which is why he took chose that fight but found out he can't knock out Diaz. We don't know what other fighters he can't knock out at 55 or 70. Further, his boxing is great offensively, but what happens when he faces someone else with knockout power? Diaz isn't that.

Cripes. Even if you look at the last two fights, one ended with him tapping and the other ended with the bell getting Diaz off of him on the ground. In what world is he the better fighter from these two outcomes? And this is Diaz. He is not even in the title shot convo at his real weightclass ffs.

Showing anything approaching a good ground game or gas tank?

Also, not immediately losing to the first person you fight in the next weight class who made you do something other than strike.

Mostly that.

Also, can we come up with a phrase like "You don't know **** about boxing" that we can use whenever people parrot the idea that a "13 second" win over someone is somehow more telling that a fight like TJ/Barao.

YDKSAMMA just lacks punch ya know?

Short sample size sucker

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Conor beats Aldo handily in the rematch by the way, just in case someone thinks I was arguing the other side.

I'm not saying the 13 second result is MORE telling, but I'm also not saying it's LESS/worthless. The biggest example of this for me was Weidman after each of the Silva fights. What more did you want him to do in those fights? String Silva along?

Besides, I was arguing at the time that the Barao fight with TJ was such a thorough demolition that Barao didn't deserve a rematch.

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Conor has visibly more muscle on his frame than when he fought Holloway, pre acl surgery Conor had a good gas tank but was also smaller.

p.s Conor knocks out Ceronne in the first rnd imo, Ceronne has good mua thai but boxing is terrible, Conor ko's him quickly just like rda imo. Diaz also slaps Ceronne around like last time, the same diaz we saw vs Michael Johnson is as dangerous as it gets at 155lbs, Micheal Johnson btw is still a contendor n don't be surprised to see him get a good win n put his name back in the mix shortly.

The default here is that Exo is making the claims of a moron:

I mean, who knows tho?

Everything he's saying there is plausible.

This is where you're conflating things:

Weidman's job was to win; he doesn't need to do anything more.

The job we have is parsing out what info to glean from the event. Don't get mad that people don't really know what to learn out of an event that was flukish. Weidman is the king of checking kicks?

Sorry that some don't blindly look at things in a binomial results oriented way. That's how you end up with elite Joe Flacco.

Well put. We all suffer from confirmation bias and if we can acknowledge it makes us more clear.

+ 1 to RT and johnny.

ps: tho call me crazy but i really think Aldo gonna win .
Do you consider Edgar to be bad in boxing ?
Aldo demeanor vs Edgar was very different when he face CM.

This was my thought process.

CM win over Poirier = Welcome in the UFC you deserve a spot.
CM win over Siver = Legit top 10
Cm win over Mendez = Even tho we saw some glaring weakness on the ground game and 2 week notice, he did beat him in class, deserve a title shot. ( if my memory is correct, Mendez was #1 contender at that time and his only lost (2) was to Aldo)
CM win over Aldo = too quick to evaluate him but you need to be good anyway to pull that $h!t out, so legit top contender.

But now the bs about he could face RDA or lawler , GSP, etc..comon !

CM lost over Diaz with 11 days notice = still weak on the ground and no gaz tank.
Win over Diaz = still no gaz tank and no idea about ground game ( never understood why Nate did not push it a bit on that ?) but his got an iron will.

Still need some answers imo before putting him in title shot in other division without ever fighting in that division.
The question that can answers it all is Aldo .