hes fine when the subject isnt fighting rampage

imo

I don't have tickets to 115 but I'm pretty excited for it. Crocop has always been one of my favourites.

how is evans the dbag here. rampage was the whiny bitch who didn't support his fighters in the show and evans called him out on it. evans has been class since day 1.

+1

can any of the Rashad haters explain exactly what he does that pisses you off? To me, he seems like a totally normal nice guy. It would be like hating Cal Ripken or John Stockton. Did he have a really offensive interview or do something major that I missed?

You greatly overestimate the intelligence of the average MMA fan if you think Chuck vs Tito wouldn't still draw a significant number of PPV buys and interest. If they're both still alive in 5 years it would probably still draw an average number then.

Man, I used to love MMA but it feels as though it is getting too saturated compared to what it was a couple years ago. That Evans/Rampage match would've been a lot better if it was a 5 round fight. Things were just starting to get interesting and both fighters had their chances there. Not enough interesting cards. Can't wait for GSP and Lesnar's next fights though

I find it hard to understand what people dislike about Rashad. I met him at an autograph thing and he was possibly the coolest fighter I've ever met. He went out of his way to talk to people and pose for photos and seemed really into the whole thing, completely down to earth, etc.

I think there's a mixture of things that turn people off from Rashad. Some of it might be from way back when he was showboating a on the ultimate fighter, did it again after the KO of chuck (I'm sure a lot of die hard chuck fans, which there are bazillions of, will never forgive him that), and then was talking trash mid fight as he was getting KOed by Machida. Also, despite a few exciting finishes I wouldn't exactly say he's Mr Exciting. Add on a personality that I think rubs some people the wrong way and I can see how he abrades a big portion of the MMA community.

That said, I like him way more than Rampage and kind of shocked at how the crowd seemed totally against Rashad. I expected more love for Rampage but that was ridiculous. Rampage can say and do anything and people just don't seem to care. I don't get it at all.

Is that it? Hasn't Anderson Silva been like a million times worse his last X number of fights? And most people seem to like him...

Dana doesn't even like Anderson Silva.

jefe, the difference Rashad was solidly losing that fight and really not doing anything up to that point.

Still, i don't dislike him. I was kinda cheering for Rampage just I do like Rampage.

assani just compared rashad evans to john stockton

im done reading this thread

ima finally understand and side with EDF and say "LOL SE MMA THREADS"

last note

rashad is pretty much the runhot of UFC

he's a top tier fighter no doubt, but he gets rocked in nearly every fight and guys just seem to take it easy on him, it's unreal, his chin is superbly soft for a championship caliber fighter

i can't wait til shogun hits him with like 30% power and he stumbles down, poor guy is gonna be in a world of hurt he hasn't come close to feeling yet

Shogun KO over Rashad is pretty much the easiest title fight prediction in a long while

C-Vig,

I think your'e forgetting Shogun's awesome ability to be taken down by 6 year old girls.

If anyone is the run hot of the UFC, it was Dan Hardy. Win some questionable split decisions in a row, get a title shot and the full hype machine behind you.

Not to be a nit, but LOL at that statement. I think "GSP over Dan Hardy via monotonous unstoppable takedown" was a little bit easier prediction. Or maybe "Anderson Silva via dance party over Maia". Hard to see how anything was more predictable than those two fights.

C Vig bringing the bias!

John Stockton was one of the dirtiest players in the league.

Rashad KOd Chuck and Forrest, two of the most popular fighters with casuals.

And also showboated a little during the Forrest fight and after the Chuck KO.

There you go.

Anderson Silva has been rooted against by the majority in most of his UFC fights. He's been booed a ton both during fights and in the post-fight interviews.

Not at all. This fight could go a lot of ways, and like Danny Ocean indicated Shogun is going to get taken down in that fight. Shogun is severely overlooked off his back though and I wouldn't be surprised if Rashad got submitted or swept and killed by ground n pound. A KO on the feet is definately a possibility too but this is hardly an easy pick for a KO. I do favor Shogun though.

Danny nailed it on the prediction front too. This isn't even close to the easiest title fight to pick in a long while and it isn't even the easiest one to pick in the last few months.

shogun is gonna breath on rashad and send him stumblin

Shogun KO :06 in to the 1st round by ear flick

I meant more specifically how someone will win a fight. GSP had a lot of ways to beat Hardy as did Silva, I actually wouldn't have predicted either go to decision. Shogun will KO/TKO Rashad.

I agree shogun will KO rashad, mainly because in a 5 round fight shogun will def put Evans in some bad spots but the amount of disrespect you have for rashad as a fighter is ridic, if you're so confident rashad wont make it out of the first round lay me some odds and i'll bet he does.

In all seriousness and not just trolling Rashad fanboys (even tho Rashard/Stockton comparison is still making me lol), Rashad has been pretty lucky to be 20-1 with the majority of his wins in the UFC.

He's gone down pretty easily in his last two fights and Thiago/Rampage just didn't finish the job. He actually went down the only time he took a halfway decent hit in either match, and of course the fight before that he crumbled to Machida. These are obviously all great strikers, but point being there have been points in his last three fights where his jaw has or really should have cost him the fight. And Shogun is as good or better a striker than all of them.


Anyway, it's a really bad match-up for Rashad. He's got a lot of tools and I'm sure he'll find the correct strategy with Jackson's tutelage, but he's going to be in trouble in a lot of areas that play to his strengths. The strategy that made him look so good vs Rampage won't exist. He can't step and duck around Shogun, and probably shouldn't try to stand with him at all. Shogun is excellent off his back although it's probably Rashad's most advantageous position to be in for any chance of winning the fight. Rua standing or on top is game over. For all the talk of Rashad's diversity, he's never submitted anyone and has never really shown any sort of submission game in his UFC career.

Also Rashad won't be able to work Shogun in to the cage and then work his grappling game like he did vs Rampage and like he's done vs others. Shogun's Muay Thai and striking just too strong and accurate. Rashad just gonna be really exposed like he was vs Machida when he was completely dominated.


Obviously don't like Evans, but most of the hate on him is just trolling. In seriousness, he's a top light heavyweight with a ton of tools and has ways to beat nearly everyone in his class. But he's fighting the top light heavyweight of the decade and just really isn't in Shogun's class imo. It's like when we rank NBA teams.

Elite tier

top tier

etc

ldo