Somme need ro realize gsp doing karate since he was 7 years old and being hit in the face for a long period now . For easilly 20 years now ?

So obv, GSP will mark easier because of scare tissue when you compare with someone like hendrix , who only get beats up in the face for only 6 years , wrestling you do mot get really hit in the face like karate imo .

It just get worse with time unless you get surgery for it .
Ask Wanderley Silva for example ..

lulz...

Kyokushin is not full contact. No way has he been getting hit in the face since he was 7.

Wanderlei who has been fighting bare knuckles since being a teenager & GSP who has been training Kyokushin have not taken anywhere near the same damage to the face.

don't karate folks just use that weird point system where they prance around pretending to hit each other or something?

Speaking of Kyokushin which GSP has been training for a long time...

The founder of the style Mas Oyama once killed a man in a pub fight. He waited outside the widows house until she forgave him. Then she did he worked that family's farm doing all the work of the man he had killed.

If Mas Oyama was alive to see this UFC 167 nonsense i'm sure he would demand his student hand over the belt to Hendricks to preserve what little honour he has left...

wat?

Two more words: Andy Hug

In daily training and a lot of tournaments no head contact is allowed...

Wait.... so you think a guy who would wait endlessly outside a grieving widows house for forgiveness and then spend his life working in the dead mans stead would give two ****s about the "honor" of a UFC belt, especially when it was a razor thin decision either way, and totally outside of GSPs control how the judges scored the fight?

Assuming the story about his life is true, he'd probably take one look at MMA and say "WTF are you doing with your lives?"

I think GSP lost that fight, but the ways people are using to demonstrate that he lost and shame GSP for accepting the win are just ridiculous.

Doesn't a lot of difference in bruising and cuts just come down to genetics ?

Hey don't judge me for being subscribed to TMZ buuuuuuut this is whats been going on with GSP : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRlWomVeoyU

so Dad dying, and got some chick pregnant and doesn't want the kid. Jerry Jerry Jerry Jerry Jerry Jerry

TMZ should have went with the alien abduction schtick...

A big problem is that rounds will almost always go 10-9 unless someone absolutely smashes his opponent to a pulp, then if he is lucky he might, just might, get a 10-8. If the judges did vary the scoring beyond 10-9 every round then it might provide a more accurate reflection. As it stands, just because one fighter is almost knocked out in one round does not mean his opponent automatically gets a few rounds extra worth of points.

On a different note, everyone is talking about how Hendricks rocked GSP but nobody seems to talk about how GSP almost submitted Hendricks on two, possibly three, occassions while Henricks never came close to a submission. The trouble there is submission attempts don't leave sexy bruises for the unwashed masses to comment on. For the record I don't think for a second Henricks tapped - GSP would never have released unless the ref called it. Also in regards to significant strikes a cheeky left hook can put someone to sleep just as quickly as a huge overhand right even though the masses would be "omgz the left hand punch did nothing" while thinking the overhand right is like Thor's hammer.

Can you stop the hate for a sec and just start thinking.


- which freaking sport gives the most scare in the face, wrestling or karate ?

- you do realize the career of Hendrix is shorter compare only to the time GSP been the champ ?
Not even GSP entire mma career which start in early 2002 while Hendrix start in 2008.

- GSP just break the record in the octagon ( over 5 hours fighting) for the most time fighting in UFC.

so yes i think it is pretty normal GSP will have cut appearing compare to Hendrix.
It was the same bs talk when GSP won vs BJ Penn march 4 ,2006 in split decision and everyone in Penn corner : " look at gsp face..."
Cause he had more cuts, but it is bs cause Penn never freakin bleed even when he gets hits a lot...

- and yes, sometimes genetics plays a part too in that.

So we've had 'lucky slip to win the fourth', 'bad genetics' and even 'gsp won the 2nd round'.

Ffs just say he should have lost and be done with it.

Agree with rogan here

Please share those close submission attempts.

There was one submission attempt in the fight, the guillotine by GSP in the 1st. I'm not sure what fight you were watching where you witnessed 3 attempts.

In the 5th... where GSP who never goes for subs and ALWAYS protects position, KNOWS he has lost the fight and desperately tries a kimura but Hendricks man handle him. Then again in the dying seconds GSP is holding onto a wrist as if his career depends on it.

Funny risk to take for someone who believes they are winning the fight.

It's not hate. I've trained Kyokushin since the early 80's so naturally GSP was one of my fav fighters.

Even after it was clearly proven GSP was greasing on SEVERAL occasions I gave him the benefit of the doubt.


But then... Why not just take the WADA doping tests? WADA & VADA are not even close to the same test. WADA is clearly the superior test and Hendricks is willing to do it so why not do it too?


Now it turns out he wants a woman he impregnated to have an abortion?


For someone who calls themselves a martial artist he is clearly lacking the virtues of one...

Funny way to analyze the motivations of someone who was completely blacked out and probably has brain damage and wasn't aware of a thing that happened.

Some random observations on the GSP vs. Hendricks fight.

1) I thought Hendricks won the fight (even though of what little I really know of them, I like GSP's personality better) & I think most other folks thought he won including Dana White & Mario Yamasaki who was the ref.

2) Some might find what Yamasaki had to say interesting:

“I’m inside the cage so I can’t see the fight as the judge sees it, but I thought Hendricks won the fight,” Yamasaki told MMAFighting.com. “I thought Hendricks dominated the fight, it was brutal, and I was surprised when they gave St-Pierre the win. But I’m not the judge. I look at the fight with different eyes.”

“The first round was slow and could have gone either way. Hendricks dominated the second one. The third was close and could also go either way, and the judges gave it to St-Pierre. When the fight was over, I thought Hendricks won every round except the last one,” he said. “But I have to watch the fight again to analyze it as a judge.”

“But (NSAC) needs to do only one judging course to set one criteria on how to analyze a fight. Every referee does his course, so they teach their way to judge a fight.”

By the way - at the post fight reporter scrum - Dana White mentioned who he thought was a really lousy ref & I think he said it was Yamasaki.

3) I read the specific judging rules & one thing I never really thought about or knew was that the 3 judges have to evaluate the contest from different locations around the fighting area.

4) I think that MMA judges don't score enough 10-8 rounds.

5) I think doing the weigh-ins up to around 34 hours b4 the fights which leads to some guys weighing 25 pounds more when they actually fight is stupid. I'd imagine they took this from boxing which started doing this in the 1980's mainly because of what happened in the Mancini vs. Kim fight in 1982 which takes to long to explain 4 those who don't know.

6) It looked to me that in most of the clinches Hendricks looked bigger & stronger because u could see GSP trying to move him & he was the one who usually got moved. Don't know if it was because Hendricks ended up being much heavier or not & isn't an excuse for GSP....he knows the rules.

7) Seems like a good # to end with. Yea, I didn't see GSP almost submitting Hendrix 3 times either.....don't even remember an almost once.

What sort of ******ed ref stops the fight for 20 seconds to replace the mouth guard of a fighter that isn't getting hit while the one that is getting hit has just been rocked hard core w/ 5 big shots and is wobbling around.

Of course GSP wants to clinch his brain has just been bounced of his skull a few times. Why stop the fight Mario?

Maybe don't lose your mouth guard if you're not getting hit.

me neither. i keep reading it and think i must have missed something, but they all looked like run of the mill crappy sub attempts where johny was not really bothered.

iirc, vegas rules are that the fight must stop when a fighter's mouthpiece falls out. It needs to be cleaned and put back in quickly.

That rule doesn't apply everywhere though.

Except that Johnny actually tapped out in the 1st to one of those crapy submissions. I know it came just as the hold was being released. But he did tap out. Realized he could breath and kept fighting. There are no take backs with tapping out.

If GSP had made the exact same tap out motion in the 4th. Everyone would call it a tap out.

These guys know what a tap out is. There is no way someone accidently taps 4 times in a championship fight, while they are in a guillotine. JH needs to address this publicly. He knows he tapped. It was done consciously.