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11-17-2013 , 12:23 PM
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scorecard of gsp hendricks
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11-17-2013 , 12:28 PM
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11-17-2013 , 12:32 PM
Meh I'm just usedto it now

Wouldn't even be a bottom ten decision on boxing this year

GSP obv lost though
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11-17-2013 , 12:48 PM
I'v watched it 3 times now.

1st round Hendricks. Easily. Lands way more shots and lands harder shots.

2nd round Hendricks. Easily. 45 seconds in GSP gets rocked hark core wobbling around while taking like 5 more big shots and stupid Mario smallballasaki stops the fight to give the mouth piece to the guy who isn't even getting hit???? Running off w/ the mouth piece looking for water while johny chases him down saying *** water just gimmi the mouth piece. 20 seconds for GSP to recover.

3rd round. GSP land more shots but they are fairy taps and NONE of them bother Johny. Hendricks shots are hard. The Hendricks gets the takedown at the end. I give it to Hendricks .

4th round. Easily Hendricks round. About 1.15 into it GSP gets hit a couple of times and while running away is tripped by Hendricks. GSP doesn't slip. Gets his ass kicked for a min and Hendricks lets him up. Lands a gazillion left uppercuts on GSP all of them hard! Even against the cage Hendricks man handles GSP and GSP cant take him down.

5th round. GSP gets this one. 2 takedowns. All Hendricks has to do is not get knocked out or subbed hes beat the shiz out of GSP for 4 rounds. Its written all over GSP's face! GSP tries for a min to take Hendricks down and eats a bunch of hard left uppercuts. Hendricks is taken down takes next to no damage and gets up. GSP gets a takedown but Hendricks is right back up without taking a single shot.

So GSP wins round 5. Maybe round 3 is you want to reward a guy for high volume fairy taps and getting taken down... makes no sense but meh...

4 rounds to 1 in my book. I could see an argument for 3 to 2 but he got hit hard and taken down.


Its official. Robbery.
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11-17-2013 , 01:10 PM
I think pretty much the whole world (except two judges) has the result of the fight was 48-47.

Robbery, meh. Bad decision, yeah.

Robbery is if it was 4-1 or 5-0 and then GSP got the decision.
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11-17-2013 , 01:16 PM
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SOMEONE POST PICS OF JOHNNY AND GSP AFTER FIGHT TO COMPARE DAMAGE FACES
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GSP looked like he'd been in a fight. Hendricks didn't

The difference in skin and scar tissue between two guys and how they show damage is like the worst possible way to judge a fight. It's an athletic competition, not a bar fight.
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11-17-2013 , 01:36 PM
Watching the post-fight press conference now. Hendricks coming off as such a huge bitch. "I wasn't really trying to knock him out. I was putting about 70% on him and it was enough." Orly??? Didn't seem like enough as you definitely lost 2 out of 5 rounds and that leaves a pretty big margin of error for judges to judge.
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11-17-2013 , 01:38 PM
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The difference in skin and scar tissue between two guys and how they show damage is like the worst possible way to judge a fight. It's an athletic competition, not a bar fight.
+1

the big issue is not how hard hendrix hit GSP but who LANDED the most hit.

i do not remember the fight clearly and i will watch it again, but seem to me lot of rounds GSP was in the lead for at least 2 rounds (3&5) with the most hit, just cannot remember the 1 st and 2nd round who landed the most punch but at 1 time GSP was in the lead if i remember correctly.

It is all about how you score a fight, the more damage with less hit wins or the less damage but the more hit wins.

So it is FAR from being a steal , i actually tough it was a draw.

And imo, Gustaffson deserved it more the belt vs jones then hendrix vs GSP.
Not because Gustaffson dominated more Jones but because seem he won 3 rounds more clearly to me then Hendrix did.

Yes Hendrix won 2 clear round but not 3 imo and a drawish round should imo go to the champ.

U need to beat the champ to be the champ imo, not drawing him.

PS: the fight waqs so close for me, I really did not know who won and i would not be bothered if GSP: lost cause i knew it was eitehr way and a good fight.

props for hendrix for showing us he can stand 5 rounds wich i doubted and to GSP for finally showing us his got some chin that i always doubt after Serra
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11-17-2013 , 01:47 PM
I just woke up , is this all a dream?
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11-17-2013 , 02:47 PM
no that hooker is still dead in the bathroom.
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11-17-2013 , 03:25 PM
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no that hooker is still dead in the bathroom.
and tony weeks still scored her the winner, 48-47.
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11-17-2013 , 03:27 PM
Wasn't able to watch this one sadly. On a scale of 1-CJ Ross where are we?
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11-17-2013 , 03:30 PM
HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE
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11-17-2013 , 03:34 PM
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Wasn't able to watch this one sadly. On a scale of 1-CJ Ross where are we?
In the world of UFC/boxing, like a 5.
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11-17-2013 , 03:35 PM
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Wasn't able to watch this one sadly. On a scale of 1-CJ Ross where are we?
Atleast Alverez was putting out some offence, GSP was basically surviving for 5 rounds!

IM NOT IMPRESSED BY YOUR PERFORMANCE GSP


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gX3sEGtG8mQ
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11-17-2013 , 03:41 PM
I just watched the fight again. It was an awesome fight.


1st round draw, with slight advantage to GSP if I have to give it to someone.
2nd and 4th Hendricks.
3 and 5th GSP.

Hendricks dominated 2 rounds. GSP also clearly won 2 rounds but did not dominate them like Hendricks dominated the 2nd and 4th. With the 10 point/per round, scoring system. I have no problem with the result. As far as a street fight, Hendricks did way more damage and clearly won. The problem is the scoring system, not the judges. The judges should be able to override the scoring system. The scoring system should be a guideline, not the final score. This is not a baseball game.

I also think Hendricks tapped out in the 1st. Every MMA fighter knows you do not make that move with your hand when you are in a submissive hold. It was not an accident. It was a Raberto Duran, "No Mas". WTF? With a take back..... Like it or not the fight should have been over right there.

Thankfully it was not because we would have missed out on a great fight. Hopefully a quick rematch is coming.

Last edited by powder_8s; 11-17-2013 at 03:55 PM.
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11-17-2013 , 03:43 PM
As mentioned I didn't see the fight live but in seeing that gif/vid and absent context, Hendricks 100% was going to tap there.
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11-17-2013 , 04:28 PM
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+1

the big issue is not how hard hendrix hit GSP but who LANDED the most hit.
No, but either way Hendricks hit GSP more times and harder.
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11-17-2013 , 05:34 PM
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No, but either way Hendricks hit GSP more times and harder.
explain because you are so dead wrong...

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...metric-numbers

"As stated, everything came down to the first round, and the first round was very close.

Hendricks landed 27 total strikes to GSP's 26. GSP, however, would land 19 significant strikes to Hendricks' 18. Both fighters landed one takedown. GSP was also recorded as attempting a guillotine choke (though he did not come close to finishing the fight with it)."

and this nailed it imo :

"The issue is that Johny Hendricks took two rounds while Georges St-Pierre squeaked out two rounds. The 10-point must scoring system, however, makes no distinction.

It was a problem with Ben Henderson vs. Frankie Edgar 2, and it was a problem with Alexander Gustafsson vs. Jon Jones. Worse yet, nobody seems to know how to fix it."


it is all about who wins the most ROUNDS and the scoring are done at then end of each round !
not over the fight has a whole wich would of favor hendrix obviously ...


"The full fight numbers, oddly, saw Hendricks beat out GSP in total strikes 142-125, but GSP would lead in significant strikes 101-85."

total hit means nothing if the majority came in the rounds Hendrix already win .

If u take the fight as a whole hendrix did better but not that much better rounds by rounds.

GSP won close rounds while hendrix dominated the 2 round he win but not enough to get a 10-8 tho, that is the problem.
Well from the point of view of the judges.


again, another metrics from different sites...

http://www.sportsnet.ca/mma/ufc/live...hny-hendricks/

" On the judges’ scorecards Round 1 was the only one they were split on. Most felt Hendricks won the first, but two judges gave it to GSP. The first frame saw Hendricks out-land GSP 27-26 in total strikes but GSP had the edge in significant strikes 19-18 and the two were even in takedowns at one a piece."

conclusion it is not a steal but a super close fight and either winning it was fine with me.
draw usually favor the champ for some judges that is all...
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11-17-2013 , 05:59 PM
Had to check this thread to see all of the wtfs, bc seriously, wtf...

As an aside, I just relocated to Montreal a few days ago, and plan on visiting Tri-Star ( I poker and kickbox/muay thai ). Hopefully I arrive after Rory has finished with his shooting spree.

Listening to Hendricks talk is painful, but he clearly won that belt.
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11-17-2013 , 06:38 PM
Sort by sigstrikes/become expert. Strikes aren't just strikes/sigstrikes.

In reality they sit on a 1-10 continuum. Hendricks had dozens of strikes in the 7-9 power range, GSP had a handful, maybe none. Hendricks had the 10 hardest shots in the fight. Hendricks stunned GSP twice. Gsp never came close to hurting Hendricks.

I love fightmetric for the most general stuff but any metric that qualifies an open hand slap and a right hook as the same punch is going to be pretty awful. The only way to see this fight as competitive is cherrypicking lolfightmetric's archaic punch-rating metric.

15/15 online-media judges had the same score. Fightmetric had that same score. The easiest Bayesian inference to make is that you are very very wrong.
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11-17-2013 , 07:32 PM
Couldnt watch the fight but damn looks like 2013 was the year all the untouchables( gsp,silva,JJ) were punched back into reality.

Cain is my #1 P4P right now
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11-17-2013 , 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Kedu
Sort by sigstrikes/become expert. Strikes aren't just strikes/sigstrikes.

In reality they sit on a 1-10 continuum. Hendricks had dozens of strikes in the 7-9 power range, GSP had a handful, maybe none. Hendricks had the 10 hardest shots in the fight. Hendricks stunned GSP twice. Gsp never came close to hurting Hendricks.

I love fightmetric for the most general stuff but any metric that qualifies an open hand slap and a right hook as the same punch is going to be pretty awful. The only way to see this fight as competitive is cherrypicking lolfightmetric's archaic punch-rating metric.

15/15 online-media judges had the same score. Fightmetric had that same score. The easiest Bayesian inference to make is that you are very very wrong.
Well I think Hendricks "won" the fight but people claiming it was rigged or one of the biggest robberies ever are way off. There are some decisions where like every single round is judged absurdly bad. This really isn't a big deal and Hendricks can blame himself for being a joke in the 5th.
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11-17-2013 , 08:05 PM
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Cain is my #1 P4P right now
i think you are right because when DC cormier will enter officially in the 205 , his gona send jones to the stone age garantee .....
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11-17-2013 , 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Kedu
Sort by sigstrikes/become expert. Strikes aren't just strikes/sigstrikes.

In reality they sit on a 1-10 continuum. Hendricks had dozens of strikes in the 7-9 power range, GSP had a handful, maybe none. Hendricks had the 10 hardest shots in the fight. Hendricks stunned GSP twice. Gsp never came close to hurting Hendricks.

I love fightmetric for the most general stuff but any metric that qualifies an open hand slap and a right hook as the same punch is going to be pretty awful. The only way to see this fight as competitive is cherrypicking lolfightmetric's archaic punch-rating metric.

15/15 online-media judges had the same score. Fightmetric had that same score. The easiest Bayesian inference to make is that you are very very wrong.

how you explain this then ?
"but GSP would lead in significant strikes 101-85.""

all i am saying is, taking this fight 1 round at a time, knowing the judges see the fight in different angle from each other and some punch might be missing depending from the point of view of the judges and finnally taking inot account the metrics of the fight i can see GSP winning this not by winning has a whole but by the 10/9 system round by round it was possible.

it is not a steal from GSP but a unlucky lost for Hendrix.

all i know is even tough hendrix dominated more gsp for 2 round then gustaffson vs jones, gustaffson was better on a 3 round period then hendrix and gustaffson still lost the fight btw.

ps: even hendrix admitted he punch at 70% , so your 9 range on 10 power is not very comprehensible and Dana was reproching him that !
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