Missed SC but they put both interviews up.

Thoughts on betting for the undercard??

Lol it sounded like some woman was laughing in the background of the Sports Center video.


Here is another video for those of you who might still not know who to root for.

GOD BLESS AMERICA

Stann's wrestling > Silva's Wrestling
Sonen absolutely raped Stann. Took him down repeatedly as if Stann was an anorexic 13yo girl.

He had much more trouble w/ Bisping on feet and on ground. But Bisping is hella underrated and easily top 3 MW imo w/ not much weakness.

I think if Sonen can get Silva on the ground for the majority of the fight he HAS to be favored. It really comes down to what Silva can do on his feet. We know he is the GOAT striker. If he is able to escape some takedowns, that could be enough for Silva. Like an extra 10-20 seconds on the feet is a huge advantage for him.

I may be underestimating Silvas chances off his back. I'v seen so many great BJJ guys not able to submit off their back given 5 minute rounds + sweat. Its really a hard feat to accomplish. But Anderson is a crazy ****er, and if he put in the training and focuses, I don't see why he can't submit off his back again.

So the more I think about this line, the more I think its okey. @ First I though it was lol bad b/c Chael was so undervalued.

Thats the thing. I said id stay clear of the betting because the fight can easily go either way. Obviously the arguement is there that in a 50/50 fight you are getting good odds to bet on Chael.

I would prefer Silva to win but the possibility of rematch to complete the trilogy if Sonnen won would be pretty good.

Sonnen is still on TRT

Agreed. And (kind of) off topic, but I'd like to see Bisping get a title shot some time. I thought he won the Sonnen fight to be honest.

Yes but afaik TRT is for people with low Testosterone. So TRT restores the testosterone:epitestosterone ratio back to the norm. Im pretty sure it is not meant to make that ratio near 17 times the norm.

This is only my understanding of it though and it could easily be wrong. So please correct me if im wrong.

TRT patients get injections as often as once a week to once every 3 weeks. I don't know much either, but it seems it would relatively easy to cycle down. Sonnen has had 2+ years of personal experience to cycle down.

Perhaps I'm far too cynical, but I think that practically every elite level fighter is taking some PEDs. Blood doping is one thing that I'd be surprised if most guys fighting 5 rounders wouldn't be doing.

Did you watch the same fight I did?? Sonnen kicked the guy's ass.

Thanks for the interview clips. Was watching UFC Tonight the other night and both Florian and Bisping were giving Sonnen the nod.

"I'm going to wait for him to throw a kick like he always does. I'm going to put my forehead into his chest run him into that cage, put him on his prissyy little ass and run this (raised fist) into his head for 25 minutes or until he gives up"

Hoping the actual fight lives up to expectations.

EDIT: Dropping a Stann comparison to a 13yo anorexic girl into the mix?

It will one way or another no matter what.

Either Chael's

- Taking him down for a few rounds and losing
- Taking him down for a few rounds and getting a dec
- Is getting KTFO.

There's really no other options

All are A+

Chael said if he didn't take his meds "I could die" concerning TRT. Can someone elaborate on this? Is TRT a life or death treatment?

I'm not a doctor, but I did stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night. The short answer is no, as in not immediate death. Maybe knocks a couple years off if that once you're way older. A poster in the EDF MMA thread does TRT and beats up little girls at the gym when he roid rages, he said it isn't life or death. I'll link him and see if he responds.

Silva gonna win on the third round.

Lol. He may be fabricating some of the things he says here, but not the part about Sonnen not needed TRT to survive. Test to epitest is nothing more then a flag from a piss test to see the presence of synthetic test. In fact it is not even illegal to have a more then 6:1 ratio, you just must be able to explain it, and 99% of the time its because they were using steroids, more to the point testosterone. The T:E ratios have NOTHING to do with actual test levels, which you can only accurately measure through blood tests. Chaels or Overeems T:E levels get thrown around like they had 10 times the test as a normal man and this is silly and false. We dont know their real levels.

Chael would not die if he stopped taking his "medicine". Its a supplement, it improves your quality of life, but it is not a life saving drug. Life changing, now that's another argument. I have forgotten to take my weekly shot before and didn't even notice. I was a bit more sluggish then normal, but that's to be expected. If he were to cut off cold turkey he would lose some muscle mass, and be depressed and bummed for awhile until his testes kicked back into gear and started working on their own, then he would return to whatever levels he was at before most the time, which according to him were low. Also there are drugs to supplement steroids where you will experience no damage or atrophy to the testes at all but that's another topic, so lol if he doesn't know that.

ALSO if he is using a legit, responsible dosage for his TRT program, he is supplementing his testosterone, not completely replacing it. I have never once taking more then recommended so I don't have any side effects. I will go on record and bet any money if I could prove it hes blasting more then double what he should be taking in camp, but thats standard, even the guys not on TRT are doing the same, I know this for a fact.

I remember after the Overeem test i searched a bit on google and from what i found most places said that most healthy adults have a ratio of 1:1 and it is very rare to find natural ratios higher than 4:1. I know that the UFC allows up to a ratio of 6:1 but from what ive read those levels are virtually non-existent naturally.

Yes, the ratio is very hard to raise without using synthetic testosterone. However, its just a ratio, its not a actual level. He could of injected a very small amount and depending on many factors the ratio could be very high etc, it really has no bearing on the actual testosterone levels. Apparently there was a ex NFL player who popped for a MMA fight with like 80:1 or something high, but yea it has no bearing on actually testosterone levels, it really just shows the presence of it in there. When you inject synthetic (fake) testosterone one, it only raises T levels and not the epitest because it does not contain it. This ratio can also go both ways. Basically all I am saying is it is a flag for the presence of illegal (without a exemption) testosterone, it does not show how much, which confuses a lot of people and had people saying Chael had 17 times the testosterone as a normal man! Which is lol no. Some MMA sites are actually still reporting it like this.

So basically chael had 17 times more testosterone than epitestosterone but not neccessarily 17 times the normal level of testosterone??

Yes exactly. It sounds very confusing, but basically anytime you inject synthetic test is skews your test to epitest ratio significantly. Its great for a easy way to detect the presence of synthetic testosterone, but not for detecting how much, it skews the ratio is all over the place depending on many things, even using small amounts. Also pretty sure if you just didnt inject for 7-10 days your levels would fall right back to with in "normal" making this test a joke to trick.

So basically what you're saying Caught Clean is that there's a good chance (highly likely?) Chael wasn't actually using steroids?