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05-26-2018 , 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Prawney
I think i mentioned it before ITT that Ben Askren was on Joe Rogans podcast and talked about One FC's weigh in policy where they have hydration tests and random weight checks that got rid of big weight cutting and the result was that everyone just basically moved up a weight class. They even moved the names of the weightclass up too so Ben was still fighting in the Welterweight division but the weight limit was 185lbs.
I'm in favor of that change but i also feel that the UFC would need to add more weight classes to accomodate the fact guys won't be cutting much water weight anymore.
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05-27-2018 , 08:34 AM
Have genuinely no idea why UFC would be opposed to more weight divisions such as 'light' & 'super'. It would dilute the prestige of the belts? It's not like they're paying the fighters that much anyway.

"I'm the champion! You should pay me more!"
"We're the UFC so **** you!"
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05-27-2018 , 09:49 AM
More lesser known fighters will die or seriously jeopardize their long term health and absolutely nothing will happen. A big name has to fall.
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05-27-2018 , 04:06 PM
Wouldn't call it a robbery but thought Thompson won that. All 3 sherdog guys thought so as well.
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05-27-2018 , 04:07 PM
also thought wb won 3 rounds, weird that someone had him losing 4
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05-27-2018 , 05:01 PM
I thought 3-2 to WB looked most likely - but to be honest it may not be bad for the sport if the guy who mostly pushes the pace and gets the only knockdown gets the nod.

I'd be miffed if I was WB though, obviously.
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05-27-2018 , 05:48 PM
I thought Till won just off of the knockdown tbh, every other round was a draw to me or slightly to WB. If i was a judge & scoring by each round i can see how WB could get the win honestly i feel wierd giving any of those rounds to anybody. Till getting the nod in his home town in such a close fight makes sense.
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05-27-2018 , 06:48 PM
I thought the judges would slightly lean Till because of the home crowd. One judge even gave Till 49 points which I thought was way off but every round but the last was razor close. I kind of figured it was 2-2 going into round five on the majority of cards because if a judge doesn’t know who won a round they pick a guy then the next round the judge might give another super close round to the other guy.
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05-27-2018 , 09:10 PM
One of those where WB won the fight with current system as round 5 was no way a 10-8. But actually Till won last round by enough that in an overall viewpoint it's fair that he wins.
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05-27-2018 , 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by rubbrband
I thought the judges would slightly lean Till because of the home crowd. One judge even gave Till 49 points which I thought was way off but every round but the last was razor close. I kind of figured it was 2-2 going into round five on the majority of cards because if a judge doesn’t know who won a round they pick a guy then the next round the judge might give another super close round to the other guy.
two judges gave him 49/46, 3rd judge 48/47 till
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05-28-2018 , 01:41 AM
People calling it robbery are exaggerating imo. I can see Till or Wonderboy at 48-47. But IMO 49-46 either way is nuts.

Personally I thought it should have 48-47 WB

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05-28-2018 , 05:14 AM
Just watched the fight. Thought Till won the first 2 mostly through leg kicks. People tend to completely discount them as far as scoring goes but they do damage and they should count. One of them seemed to **** up wb's leg for the rest of the fight. Thought 3 was actually super close (though wb won it) and off the back of that thought he was going to win the 5th with everyone saying he was robbed. 1 2 and 5 for till for me
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05-28-2018 , 05:22 AM
I know it's not relevant to the scoring, but I kinda think of how the fight would likely go sometimes if they fought until someone won. I'd go for Till there definitely.

For what it's worth - I'd advocate a system where judges could score a round even. I realise that this may make it too easy for them to cop out so that there may be loads of even rounds, and you would get more even scorecards. But, if a judge scores the fight even they can pick a winner and the "who do you think would win if they fought to the death" angle is one way that they could decide on a fight they scored even.
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05-28-2018 , 05:47 AM
They can score a round 10-10, they just almost never do.
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05-28-2018 , 06:09 AM
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They can score a round 10-10, they just almost never do.
I didn't realise that. It beats me how you find a winner in round one if you can score a draw.

Anyway - stats look very close.

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05-28-2018 , 07:59 AM
Just catching up on the GSP JRE. would he be the first high level fighter to come out as gay? Was definitely giving off some vibes that day.
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05-28-2018 , 08:10 AM
This was a fight where you might get a different impression if you have the sound off. I watched with the volume low and thought it was a close but clear win for Thompson. But the home advantage goes a long way. There's a theory about the discernible home advantage in football which suggests that screaming fans lead to bias in referees, particularly when it comes to close decisions. Same could surely apply to any sport where the crowd can be vocal.
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05-28-2018 , 01:06 PM
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Just catching up on the GSP JRE. would he be the first high level fighter to come out as gay? Was definitely giving off some vibes that day.
Emile Griffith was long thought of as gay or bisexual and faced anti-gay slurs during his career. His pummeling of Benny Paret was motivated by a homophobic slur directed at him by Paret. That was back in the early 60s.

He did eventually come out in a more formal manner but that was after he retired.

Orlando Cruz became the first boxing champion to come out as gay while fighting.

As for MMA, I can't think of any men but Amanda Nunes is a lesbian.

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This was a fight where you might get a different impression if you have the sound off. I watched with the volume low and thought it was a close but clear win for Thompson. But the home advantage goes a long way. There's a theory about the discernible home advantage in football which suggests that screaming fans lead to bias in referees, particularly when it comes to close decisions. Same could surely apply to any sport where the crowd can be vocal.
The way the crowd cheers definitely has an impact. You see it in British boxing matches all the time.

How a fight is broadcasted can frame the audience's perception. I remember watching Adrien Broner/Jessie Vargas with foreign language broadcasting and my score of the fight was way more in Vargas's favor than in Broner's. I was shocked that judges thought Broner won.
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05-28-2018 , 01:10 PM
Half of the women in the UFC are lesbians.
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05-28-2018 , 01:11 PM
Wikipedia lists 16. That may very well be half.
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05-28-2018 , 04:07 PM
Nick Ring
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05-28-2018 , 04:51 PM
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Half of the women in the UFC are lesbians.
Pretty sure it's higher than that, alot of them are in the closet like Joanna. Her look & attitude just screams thesbian.
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05-28-2018 , 06:06 PM
I really like wonderboy but if he lost it’s his fault here .
Couple fight his being too careful and let the judges decide ( vs tyron as well).
He should know better with his experience , especially vs a supposedely «*weaker*» and a fight that almost equal ...
HIs to nice as well during fight , not enough killer instinct I think ...

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05-28-2018 , 08:46 PM
Wonderboy and Holly Holm are the same person.
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05-28-2018 , 09:16 PM
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Wonderboy and Holly Holm are the same person.
That's disrespectful.
































Wonderboy is so much better looking.
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