i love votto and hope he makes it even tho lolHOF(i dont really care what a bunch of writer puds have to say about who gets in). id put it as more likely than not he gets there between his current and historical health, like 50-60% imo. BUT the whole "seems like he will age well" thing is idiotic the way most people use it. players perform until they dont and besides injury history i dont think we guess that well at who will age smoothly or drop off a cliff. some recent examples of guys who aged well or fell off that most people wouldve guessed the other way are nelly cruz, papi, joey bats, austin jackson and funny enough the actual poo hole in anaheim

speaking of poo holes, you sure like to post a lot dont ya?

Austin Jackson is an odd inclusion to that list.

Speaking of which, if anyone needed another reason to LOL at RBIs, just look at Pujols and Trout's season numbers.

After tonight's game, Trouts Slugging = Pujols On Base + Slugging

I don't get the RBI hate. It's just a record of what happened in the game.

Article from yesterday.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...r-in-baseball/

" His -1.99 WAR ranks dead last among all players (including pitchers).

If he finishes the season in last place — which seems quite possible, as L.A. continues to pencil him into its starting lineup, day after day, despite his poor numbers — Pujols will become the first modern2 position player ever to be both baseball’s best and worst player at various points in his career. "

Nearly the same OPS as Corey Seager and Hosmer this year

The Oakland A's have zero Latin position players, and just two in the bullpen. Seems unlikely.

Just looked up Pujols. It's crazy that with as unhealthy as he has been, he's still getting like 600 ABs every year for the Angels. And his walk and strikeout numbers are both very low every year. This year's 80 Ks are his most since 2001.

But moron commentators will still say that Pujols 83 rbis are proof that he is still a "run producer"

I quite enjoy how Albert Pujols and Adrian Beltre have rapidly converging WARs.

After 2012, Pujols had 91.2, and Beltre and Beltre had 65.3. Pujols is also younger. The idea that Beltre would one day pass Pujols seemed next to impossible. Pujols looked like an inner circle hall of famer, and Beltre looked like a fringe hall of famer who deserved to get voted in but who would probably not even get much consideration due to being underrated.

At the start of this year, it was 101 to 90.2, and even with Beltre missing time, the gap has narrowed to 99.4 – 94.1.

Pujols might go down as I’m assuming the only player in history to clear 100 WAR, but then play so bad afterwards that he falls out of the 100 WAR club, and how far down he might go is kind of scary. He could easily drop down below 95 if he continues to be a sub replacement player.

Beltre's career also seems impossibly underrated. 6 top 10 MVP finishes, 5 gold gloves, 3000 hits and many more coming, 600 doubles and counting, closing in on 500 home runs. And yet to this point in his career, after 20 seasons, he has only been selected to 4 all star teams.

Pujols has 11 all star games, 10 times in the top 5 of MVP voting including 3 MVP's, and yet pretty soon Beltre will probably pass him for career WAR.

Beltre is at age 38 in his 20th season is somehow having the 2nd best hitting season of his career including his highest OBP ever.

Pujols slash after 10 seasons. 1558 games. .331 BA, .426 OBP, .624 SLG
and now his career OPS has dropped a full 100 points and he probably will retire as a career sub .290 hitter or something if doesn't hurry up retire.

Yeah, the last 3-4 years I've really come to appreciate Beltre.

But Pujols peak was clearly better.

81.2 WAR in 10 years was so elite. By the time he's done stinking it up for the rest of his contract it'll be hard to remember. He's in the hunt now for the worst 100 rbi season of all time this year. A pile of empty garbage counting stats are being racked up while his career rates come down to earth.

Angels are trying to add another future Pujols.



Pujols and him are going to fight for the RBIs from Trout batting in front of them for years to come!

not included in his WAR is the immaculate destruction of brad lidge

Upton is a lot younger than Albert.

The Astros first game back in Texas after Hurricane Harvey, will be against Matt Harvey.

Cam Maybin to Houston for nothing in a corresponding move.

Verlander is in play.

Hmmm. Well the White Sox have been of no assistance to AL Wild Card hopefuls.

He's not a bad guy to have on the 40 for Sept. JJ What's charity will pay the 1.5mil 10x over.

Ugh, roster expansion a day away. I've really come to dislike it.

Dbacks!

Just get them through the wildcard game and maybe they can make a little noise in the playoffs. I hope so because I'm sweating some well paying futures bets.

Angels needed Upton to make that big push into the playoffs where they can lose in the divisional round.

It beats sucking, though.

http://www.hardballtimes.com/king-of...n-coors-field/