Will there be a better player than Barry Bonds in the next 20 years?

scott sizemore? some other lolger?

Well, its definitely not easier to get a walk than to get a hit, but it is probably easier to get a walk than most major league hitters make it out to be.

I'd bet no, and DEFINITELY no if you mean "in 20 years will I be saying that BB is not the best player." There might be someone playing, 20 years from now, that will go on to be better than BB though.

You were not playing the same game that MLB players are playing. Its practically like saying "Hitting is easy, I was down at the Bellagio playing the $10 blackjack and I was hitting all day." Thats how much different MLB is from your HS baseball, in terms of how hard it is to get walks and get on base in general.

my model has a 93% chance for this happening

<3 not lolo, anyone comparing him to agame these last few pages should be ashamed

Jesus, Hinske looks like a Yakuza gangster.

Gotta be hard to sweat with all that ink...not safe imo.

I agree with this........but on the same token, the pitchers may have superior control in the MLB but also superior stuff, so it goes both ways. It's easier to draw walks off HS pitchers but it's also easier to hit off them.

the answer is somewhere inbetween these. its not just one or the other, and it is closer to walking being a skill then simply getting pitched around

i think oliver perez does this every other outing

Funny tho that's its all the home run hitters with the big walk totals

INTENTIONAL WALKS YEAR IBB
1 Barry Bonds 2004 120
2 Barry Bonds 2002 68
3 Barry Bonds 2003 61
4 Willie McCovey 1969 45
T5 Barry Bonds 1993 43
T5 Barry Bonds 2007 43
7 Willie McCovey 1970 40
8 Barry Bonds 2006 38
T9 Ryan Howard 2006 37
T9 Sammy Sosa 2001 37
T11 Ryan Howard 2007 35
T11 Barry Bonds 2001 35
13 Barry Bonds 1997 34
T14 John Olerud 1993 33
T14 Ted Williams 1957 33
T16 Vladimir Guerrero 2002 32
T16 Barry Bonds 1992 32
T16 Kevin Mitchell 1989 32
19 George Brett 1985 31
20 Barry Bonds 1996 30
T21 Dale Murphy 1987 29
T21 Frank Thomas 1995 29
T21 Adolfo Phillips 1967 29
T21 Barry Bonds 1998 29
T21 Frank Howard 1970 29
T26 Mark McGwire 1998 28
T26 Ernie Banks 1960 28
T26 Manny Ramirez 2003 28
T26 Albert Pujols 2006 28

Don't tell me these guys had a better eye, discipline than Ichiro, Gwynn at the plate.

Sure John Olerud is here, as is Brett but it would take a ton of evidence that the free swingers above had better walking skills/discipline than then the masters of the craft of base hitting like Brett, Cobb, Speaker, Keeler, Boggs Gwynn and Ichiro.

I stand by my statement that the long ball potential makes pitchers pitch around them not superior walking skills.

See: Rondo in HORSE

wtf @ listing IBB of course thats gonna be sluggers. there are plenty of non sluggers on the plain old BB list though. edit: no one is claiming IBB's are a skill beyond being bad ass enough to deserve them.

ichiro for his career has swung at 25% of pitches thrown to him that were outside the strike zone

bonds only swung at 13.3% of balls

http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx...latediscipline

http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx...latediscipline

not sure why you think someone who swings at nearly twice as many bad pitches has a better eye and plate discipline than bonds

lol people wasting time arguing with Lolo...not that i mind because its entertaining watching him spout some ******ed **** and then having 10 people own him

again i just want to know the answer to one question:

does it not require a great eye to be a great home run hitter?

Nope, only steroids.

This is very interesting? How is this data compiled the Questec system?

ohhh now the big scary technology isn't good enough for not lolo!

also i love that just bc bonds was awesome and got IBB'd a lot means his other walks where he took close pitches and stuff don't count

hey sort of how just bc he was super super awesome for 5-7 years using "the clear" means his super awesome years pre 99 don't count!

They have 12 year olds eyeball it.

Who was it who had a "model" that said there was a 0% (exactly 0%) chance Chipper could finish out his .400 season a few years back?

Win.

Lol I remember that so funny
zero % chance haha

This is funny! +1

Where do most of you guys get your baseball news and stuff from? Fangraphs?