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Old 01-12-2018, 11:30 AM   #1051
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Old 01-12-2018, 01:13 PM   #1052
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I really hope he does
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Old 01-12-2018, 01:45 PM   #1053
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I hope he goes farther.
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Old 01-13-2018, 08:36 PM   #1054
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Cole to Houston confirmed
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Old 01-13-2018, 09:01 PM   #1055
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Pirates going to get raped on this. imo. They had their window. It will probably be another 20 years before they make the playoffs.
Pirates didn't get raped, but the Astros gave up very little. Musgrove is a MLB ready mid rotation or solid reliever. Moran doesn't have a space in the Astros infield.
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Old 01-13-2018, 11:21 PM   #1056
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Pirates didn't get raped, but the Astros gave up very little. Musgrove is a MLB ready mid rotation or solid reliever. Moran doesn't have a space in the Astros infield.
Get a position, Morans.
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Old 01-14-2018, 01:51 PM   #1057
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I would say LOLmets for signing AGon, but they seem to already have a dysfunctional team and they only have to pay $500k.
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Old 01-14-2018, 03:54 PM   #1058
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Am I the only one who thinks the Pirates did really well in the Cole trade? They probably got 15-
20 years of control for two years of a pitcher coming off the worst year of his career.
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Old 01-14-2018, 04:18 PM   #1059
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Those players aren't going to lead them to a pennant in the next 4 years and they are already MLB ready. Pirates ****ed, again, imo.
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Old 01-14-2018, 07:15 PM   #1060
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Re: MLB Offseason Thread 2017-18

I like the return they got tbh. Feliz seems to be a guy that Pittsburgh (i.e. Searage) does well with, and I'd imagine he'd be able to do some nice work with Musgrove too. Musgrove seems like one of those guys who has it all in there somewhere and just hasn't put it all together yet. Wouldn't be shocked if either or both turned out to be really good. Moran seems pretty much MLB ready and just didn't have a spot in Houston's lineup, but should be league average at worst. Martin was available for Rule 5 a month ago and nobody was interested so meh.
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Old 01-15-2018, 02:48 AM   #1061
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Re: MLB Offseason Thread 2017-18

Reading an article about Fred McGriff!

At one point all of the information on my screen was very interesting so I took a screenshot.
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Old 01-15-2018, 02:51 AM   #1062
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I want to see the math.
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Old 01-15-2018, 03:23 AM   #1063
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It mostly comes down to the adjustment for the demands and value of being a shortstop vs that of being a 1B with a splash of DHing. A decent amount for baserunbing, obv. Small bit for Reese having significantly fewer GIDPs.
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Old 01-15-2018, 07:05 AM   #1064
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I mean a cursory understanding of stats gives the probable answer.
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Old 01-15-2018, 09:41 AM   #1065
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pee wee reese was a shortstop in the 40s while fred mcgriff was a 1B in the steroid era. lol
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Old 01-15-2018, 09:42 AM   #1066
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wait was there actual math included? i thought we were making fun of someone's "GOTCHA LOL ADVANCED STATS" tweet
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Old 01-15-2018, 04:27 PM   #1067
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Re: MLB Offseason Thread 2017-18

re: Cole Trade...seems fair and more in line with what the return should be (i.e. not raiding the farm system) for PIT + years of control for Hou for Cole where even if continues to regress its not a Franchise killer.

More happy that the Yanks didn't purge the farm to get Cole....just didnt seem worth the price tag.
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Old 01-15-2018, 04:28 PM   #1068
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McCutchen to Giants
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Old 01-15-2018, 04:44 PM   #1069
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Worst case scenario giants suck and he gets flipped

No harm no foul unless panik is part of the deal
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Old 01-15-2018, 04:48 PM   #1070
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I like the Giants aggression. Great market to get vets.
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Old 01-15-2018, 04:53 PM   #1071
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Frontrunners for Cain too
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Old 01-15-2018, 04:57 PM   #1072
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Might only finish 10 behind the Dodgers
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Old 01-15-2018, 05:22 PM   #1073
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Nightengale reported that the Giants are out on Cain in the wake of the Cutch trade, but he's Nightengale, so...
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Old 01-15-2018, 05:38 PM   #1074
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Re: MLB Offseason Thread 2017-18

Kyle Crick is one piece going to the Pirates. Between him and Feliz, it looks like Huntington thinks there's a market deficiency for high-K guys with control issues; that, or they think they can fix them, turn them into closer material and peddle them for higher returns later.
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Old 01-15-2018, 06:48 PM   #1075
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Bryan Reynolds is the other one going to PIT

The Giants had two spots of AIDS and filled them with Longoria and McCutchen.
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