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Old 01-01-2018, 11:56 AM   #926
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Re: MLB Offseason Thread 2017-18

Too bad Edgar didn't play with peak Pedro, Schilling, Damon, Manny, and Varitek.
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Old 01-01-2018, 11:58 AM   #927
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Mostly that the post I quoted before making the point I made is a bunch of phooey. The argument that clutch performance should make up for an otherwise not good enough career should only hold water if his performance in clutch situations was any better than his regular career numbers.
no one remembers what you do with two outs against the rays in june. quoting that as "clutch" is irrelevant and not what people are talking about.

he had a 1.372 ops across three world series, winning all of them. he had back to back walkoffs in possibly the most famous playoff series ever.
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Old 01-01-2018, 07:18 PM   #928
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I think Papi, based on playing career (steroid user), is an absolute no brainer HOFer. I don't understand how one can think all those playoff heroics (who cares about close and late type stats) arent a huge factor, to a member of the 500 home run club. Add in that he is an icon of the ****ing Red Sox and its a no ****ing brainer! We're debating enshrinement in the museum, not ranking best players ever.
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Old 01-01-2018, 07:21 PM   #929
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Too bad Edgar didn't play with peak Pedro, Schilling, Damon, Manny, and Varitek.
He did play with 3 people who are on the 40 man roster created from a pool of every living organism in history. At the same ****ing time. Imagine if the same could be said in basketball ot football.
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Old 01-01-2018, 08:42 PM   #930
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A-rod, Griffey Jr, and ???
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Old 01-01-2018, 08:53 PM   #931
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A-rod, Griffey Jr, and ???
Randall David Johnson!
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Old 01-01-2018, 09:17 PM   #932
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Forgot about the Big Angry Unit.
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Old 01-01-2018, 10:42 PM   #933
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Old 01-01-2018, 11:26 PM   #934
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Arod Griffey Edgar and Buhner was a murderous heart of the lineup
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Old 01-02-2018, 01:08 AM   #935
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I love that this happened with Unit pitching. I mean, a Mark Buerhle fastball probably does the same thing, but its so much more badass that a Randy Johnson pitch did this.
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Old 01-02-2018, 01:19 AM   #936
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I love that this happened with Unit pitching. I mean, a Mark Buerhle fastball probably does the same thing, but its so much more badass that a Randy Johnson pitch did this.
When I was a kid I'd play Ken Griffey baseball on my (original) gameboy. I thought he was such a badass because he was the only one in the game who could throw 100mph, and when I saw the video of him exploding the bird, I convinced myself that because he was the only one throwing 100mph, he was also the only one capable of throwing hard enough to explode a bird, and the mark buerhle's of the world just weren't capable.
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Old 01-02-2018, 03:24 PM   #937
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A-rod, Griffey Jr, and ???
Griffey Jr. is probably the most overrated player of all time. Ichiro> Jr.. #sorrynotsorry. imo.
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Old 01-02-2018, 03:40 PM   #938
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I expected you to be on the Griffey > Bonds side of that debate tbh
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Old 01-02-2018, 03:46 PM   #939
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Griffey more overrated than Nolan Ryan? lol @ u
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I expected you to be on the Griffey > Bonds side of that debate tbh
I should go back and post all the posts calling me a troll, then saying that I was pretty much right.

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Griffey more overrated than Nolan Ryan? lol @ u
At least Ryan was able play for more than a couple months each season. imo.
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Old 01-02-2018, 04:10 PM   #941
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Ryan played in less than 1/3rd of the games that Griffey did.
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Old 01-02-2018, 04:12 PM   #942
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Ryan played in less than 1/3rd of the games that Griffey did.
That's pretty embarrassing for Griffey.
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Old 01-02-2018, 05:20 PM   #943
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Griffey Jr. is probably the most overrated player of all time. Ichiro> Jr.. #sorrynotsorry. imo.
Booooo, this is terrible.
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Old 01-02-2018, 05:21 PM   #944
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Griffey was clearly better than Ichiro and also overrated.
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Old 01-02-2018, 05:22 PM   #945
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He was GOATish in the 90s, and obv steep decline due to injuries, but still amassing 630 dongs.
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Old 01-02-2018, 05:28 PM   #946
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He was GOATish in the 90s, and obv steep decline due to injuries, but still amassing 630 dongs.
Which year during the 90s was he the best player? I haven't looked yet, but I'm going to guess 0 or some lame early 90s stuff.
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Old 01-02-2018, 05:29 PM   #947
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He was GOATish in the 90s, and obv steep decline due to injuries, but still amassing 630 dongs.
You just proved my point. He wasn't GOATish. He was great, but he only had two seasons where you could even argue he was the best player in the game and three seasons where he was a 7 WAR player. He never scored a 10 WAR season. He was elite, but by calling him GOATish, you're putting him up there with Ruth/Bonds/Williams/Trout/etc and he just wasn't one of those guys.
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Old 01-02-2018, 05:36 PM   #948
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Which year during the 90s was he the best player? I haven't looked yet, but I'm going to guess 0 or some lame early 90s stuff.
97-98 MVP.


Point taken, GW.

He would have had to basically duplicate that decade of production to finish GOAT. 800 cuadrangulars and 20 Gold Gloves would be quite the career.
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Old 01-02-2018, 05:38 PM   #949
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Btw, Frank Thomas is the early 90s AL MVP.
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Old 01-02-2018, 06:01 PM   #950
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97-98 MVP.


Point taken, GW.

He would have had to basically duplicate that decade of production to finish GOAT. 800 cuadrangulars and 20 Gold Gloves would be quite the career.
97 he was up there, but you must be having a laugh by mentioning 98.

Everyone in the game was **** except for Bonds from 1960-1992. imo. So realBighurt isn't claiming much by being the best early 90s gent.
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