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05-29-2020 , 06:46 AM
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Esteban Loaiza ex Yankees pitcher blew thru $44 million
up his nose and on luxury stuff
now dead broke and busted - either in jail or will be soon


https://www.foxnews.com/sports/ex-ya...e-cocaine-bust
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05-29-2020 , 08:30 AM
$400 a week, that's regular person minimum wage.
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05-29-2020 , 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by FallawayJumper
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Esteban Loaiza ex Yankees pitcher blew thru $44 million
up his nose and on luxury stuff
now dead broke and busted - either in jail or will be soon


https://www.foxnews.com/sports/ex-ya...e-cocaine-bust
Didn't read the article, but I thought he was in jail.


Did you even read the article? He is in jail. Also, he played 10 games for the Yankees. Really douchey title. By you and them.

Last edited by Bighurt52235; 05-29-2020 at 12:41 PM.
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05-29-2020 , 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Merry Christmas
They should have used that yeast to make bread so they would have something to spread all of the jelly on.
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05-31-2020 , 06:45 PM
Im watching mlb the show games and watched old games like today, the 85 NLCS with Vin Scully and Joe Garagiola, Dodgers vs Cardinals.

seems like a couple of ex's of mine, baseball...not like i was that into it when it is on tv all day. now that it is gone i really miss it.
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06-01-2020 , 03:17 AM
I'm starting to think we really won't have a season this year, bros.

The contentious negotiating that has to take place between the players and the owners is just going to be an excuse to air out grievances of the larger problem, which is a CBA that nobody likes.

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06-01-2020 , 03:21 AM
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Originally Posted by TJ Eckleburg12
I'm starting to think we really won't have a season this year, bros.

The contentious negotiating that has to take place between the players and the owners is just going to be an excuse to air out grievances of the larger problem, which is a CBA that nobody likes.

I think the consensus is we'll know for sure one way or another this week.
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06-01-2020 , 08:04 AM
Man, they've (MLB, owners, players) really blown this haven't they? Baseball could've been the first sport back, the only sport people watch, it could've been huge for the sport but, instead, they're all fighting over money yet again. If the NBA starts up before baseball it'll be a huge blow to the sport.
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06-01-2020 , 08:52 AM
yeah baseball was ideal and they had the infrastructure in ARI to do it as well

i think in the end, what happens to most leagues will be dictated by the language used in the tv contracts, ie whether or not an act of god requires them to return the monies or not

i'm guessing even with no season they get most if not all of that money anyway, otherwise I think they'd have a bit more urgency and incentive to both get it going and not lowball the players with new salaries on top of a bunch of lifestyle conditions they wouldn't want either
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06-01-2020 , 11:50 AM
Yeah, baseball has a lot less close contact between players unlike basketball and even hockey or soccer.
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06-01-2020 , 03:06 PM
Both sides are being absolutely ridiculous. They're both going to take a big hit this year because of Covid which is unavoidable. But long term if they don't play this year they're going to cost themselves a lot more money . If you're an older player on his last big contract I could see selfishly not caring that much- but overall both sides are being short sighted.

Fans were pissed after the strike in 94 but if they don't play this year that will look like nothing. The strike didn't happen in the middle of a pandemic with 40 million people are out work and small businesses being destroyed.

I don't remotely begrudge the players for making as much money as they do as that money doesn't come out of thin air. Even when an owner gives out a moronic contract that is bad before the ink dries it doesn't bother me (unless it's on my team.) But when 30-40 percent of the revenue is just gone because of lack of ticket sales during a pandemic that money isn't there. Players should get their salaries prorated for games played at something around 70 percent .

Additionally what the owners are doing to the minor league players is a disgrace. It's pathetic when someone like David Price says he will pay them all in the Dodgers system but the billionaire owners won't.
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06-01-2020 , 04:31 PM
No. The owners should have put clauses in the players' contracts that if revenue falls below a certain point the player would have to eat some, if that is what the owners are going for. Because the owners sure as **** didn't share the wealth with players this past decade when values of teams has doubled and tripled. Total player salaries have been stagnant for something like 5 years.
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06-01-2020 , 04:43 PM
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06-01-2020 , 05:06 PM
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Over the past decade, the value of the average MLB franchise has increased by approximately 300%, to $1.85 billion. The annual contract of the average MLB player has increased by about 40%, to $4.4 million. As The Associated Press reported, salaries have stagnated over the past five years.
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...0-season-stake

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1. MLB's financial proposal would be a big financial hit for high-earning players (obviously), but that is a really small subset. There were 1,410 players who appeared in an MLB game in 2019. There were 124 players who earned at least $10 million in 2019 (9% of the player pool); there were 140 scheduled to earn at least $10 million in 2020. Forty players earned at least $20 million in 2019 (3% of player pool); there were 47 scheduled to earn at least $20 million in 2020. (This does not account for those who did not play a game in 2019, such as Yoenis Cespedes.)
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Baseball is a young man's game. The percentage of players by current service time (from 2019 40-man Opening Day rosters):
0-1 year: 30%
1-2 years: 16%
2-3 years: 11%
3-4 years: 9%
4-5 years: 6%
5-6 years: 6%
6+ years: 21%
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06-01-2020 , 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by THAY3R
I was arguing with some writer on Twitter a few years ago who since blocked me, maybe Jeff Passan? about how owning a sports franchise wasn't a slam dunk money making opportunity and some point in the future they could be seen as poor investments and he just called me an idiot.
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06-01-2020 , 05:52 PM
ok, fwiw i just saw this on my youtube recs. seems like some news...

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BREAKING: MLB IS COMING BACK WITH UPDATES TODAY FROM JEFF PASSAN AND MANY MORE ABOUT THE UPCOMING 2020 MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL SEASON
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wEUA9hWEw0


https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/statu...7Ctwgr%5Etweet
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06-01-2020 , 05:55 PM
LOL owners biggest hypocrites ever. Holla @ my boy Blake Snell for keeping it real.
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06-01-2020 , 06:15 PM
Karl Ravech was just on Sportscenter saying we WILL have baseball this year, barring everything being shutdown again.
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06-01-2020 , 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by borg23
Both sides are being absolutely ridiculous. They're both going to take a big hit this year because of Covid which is unavoidable. But long term if they don't play this year they're going to cost themselves a lot more money . If you're an older player on his last big contract I could see selfishly not caring that much- but overall both sides are being short sighted.

Fans were pissed after the strike in 94 but if they don't play this year that will look like nothing. The strike didn't happen in the middle of a pandemic with 40 million people are out work and small businesses being destroyed.

I don't remotely begrudge the players for making as much money as they do as that money doesn't come out of thin air. Even when an owner gives out a moronic contract that is bad before the ink dries it doesn't bother me (unless it's on my team.) But when 30-40 percent of the revenue is just gone because of lack of ticket sales during a pandemic that money isn't there. Players should get their salaries prorated for games played at something around 70 percent .

Additionally what the owners are doing to the minor league players is a disgrace. It's pathetic when someone like David Price says he will pay them all in the Dodgers system but the billionaire owners won't.

Agree with all this. I don’t understand why players are so intent on making owners eat **** when there’s a major revenue stream missing, unless B’Laké Snell and others are considering streaming video games for a living as an alternative
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06-01-2020 , 06:38 PM
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Agree with all this. I don’t understand why players are so intent on making owners eat **** when there’s a major revenue stream missing, unless B’Laké Snell and others are considering streaming video games for a living as an alternative
Snell sounded like a complete idiot

To top it off his contract is extremely backloaded so he doesn't make that much (relatively speaking) this year which means he doesn't lose that much of the season is cancelled.

Even when the players are 100 percent right fans will always be against them bc the general public views them as overpaid adults playing a kids game.But they're also wrong here.

If they said the owners proposal is crap (which is it) and we're reasonable about the fact a major revenue stream is gone for this year I'd 100 percent be on their side.Instead they're lying saying an agreement was reached months ago about them being paid in full prorated which absolutely was not the case with no fans in the crowd.



I absolutely love baseball and watch more of it than probably 99 percent of fans.Im not someone who had a problem with them making tons of millions.As much as I'd love to be able to watch it now basically being home all day even I'm getting sick of these ****ing spoiled babies which is really bad considering how much fans must feel about it.

As it is I already thought there was going to be a strike bc the young players have been getting totally ****ed . The union didn't mind when they could make it up on the back end but these days gms aren't dumb enough to give 32 year olds long term contracts so there was going to be a major fight when the CBA expired anyway.Probably would have been smarter for the players to have an actual contract lawyer run the union rather than a first basemen.

It's actually kind of funny that the owners have gotten away from allowing (mostly) dumb ex players run teams but the players decided it would be smart to have one run their union
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06-01-2020 , 06:43 PM
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No. The owners should have put clauses in the players' contracts that if revenue falls below a certain point the player would have to eat some, if that is what the owners are going for. Because the owners sure as **** didn't share the wealth with players this past decade when values of teams has doubled and tripled. Total player salaries have been stagnant for something like 5 years.
They already had a clause about national emergencies (I forget the exact phrase)
If covid never happened and it was a normal seson and revenue tanked I'd say too ****ing bad for the owners.

Theyve been stangant bc the idiots elected Tony Clark to be their gm and they got raped on their CBA. GMs are way smarter than they were 5 years ago and understand aging curves a lot better than they use to. They're not stupid enough to pay you for what you've already done anymore for the most part.

Perhaps if the morons didn't agree to have young players get fisted they would have made more money.Machado and Harper still got huge money because they came up at 19 years old so they hit free agency at 25-26. Most players don't come up that young.
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06-01-2020 , 06:44 PM
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Agree with all this. I don’t understand why players are so intent on making owners eat **** when there’s a major revenue stream missing, unless B’Laké Snell and others are considering streaming video games for a living as an alternative
Over the past decade, the value of the average MLB franchise has increased by approximately 300%, to $1.85 billion. The annual contract of the average MLB player has increased by about 40%, to $4.4 million. As The Associated Press reported, salaries have stagnated over the past five years.

But of course the owners will make everything right if they can just be helped through this tough time.


Agree that Tony Clark is a ****ing idiot. I have no idea how he got the position or how he has held it so long.

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06-01-2020 , 09:34 PM
Watching Little Big League... Billy's friends should understand that it would be ridiculous for him to pass up lunch with Reggie Jackson because they were gonna go ride their bicycles.
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06-02-2020 , 09:48 PM
I wanna see some damn beisbol !

ASAP!

PRONTO!

SOON!
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