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12-24-2016 , 10:30 PM
It was long and thick and heavy
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12-25-2016 , 01:46 AM
And darn good at hitting singles.
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12-25-2016 , 02:35 AM
Nice, that's nice
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12-25-2016 , 08:52 AM
Was it Julio that tom kirkjian alleges to have the biggest dick in history?
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12-25-2016 , 08:59 AM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7bTi3ki61MI

Yep whiter than hubie brown
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12-25-2016 , 09:28 AM
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7bTi3ki61MI

Yep whiter than hubie brown
Your image is broken. I want to know.
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12-25-2016 , 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Bighurt52235
Your image is broken. I want to know.


definitely NSFW
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12-25-2016 , 12:06 PM
That was the only downside of them going national: The Big Voice couldn't go with them because of his deal with Westwood One, took a while to get used to Papi.

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Was it Julio that tom kirkjian alleges to have the biggest dick in history?
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Yep whiter than hubie brown
Not quite but you know this.
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12-25-2016 , 10:48 PM
I can't figure out what the above means.

I'm glad that Julio Franco came to pass. I love that the guy just loves to hit baseballs and I love that he apparently has an enormous sword in his pocket!
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12-26-2016 , 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by DodgerIrish
That was the only downside of them going national: The Big Voice couldn't go with them because of his deal with Westwood One, took a while to get used to Papi.





Not quite but you know this.
Yeah, I had heard it on the Dan LeBatard show on a day that Kirkjian was there, which is where the confusion came from. I only started listening after they went national, so Papi is really all I know, and anything else is from me just randomly googling clips and stuff. I love Papi though, think he makes the whole experience way better. "You don't get the show" is my ringtone.
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12-28-2016 , 11:31 AM
Hall of fame thought for discussion. I'm going to ask that you ignore steroids for the moment.

Manny Ramirez totaled 66.3 WAR for his career, which is likely enough to make him a surefire eventual HoFer, roids aside. He did this despite abysmal defense, both by the eye test and statistically (-276.6 Defensive value on Fangraphs). Thing is, with his defense that bad, it could be argued that a) he should have been a DH for the majority of his career and b) it was a teambuilding flaw that he and David Ortiz were on the same roster, necessitating Manny's playing the field. With that being the case, he's being credited with negative performance defense that's not entirely his own fault (at least shared with management).

Would you be inclined to give Manny some benefit of the doubt if your OF WAR standard for HoF was, say, 70 WAR?
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12-28-2016 , 11:39 AM


Negative defense? I don't believe you
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12-28-2016 , 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by StoppedRainingMen


Negative defense? I don't believe you
I try to watch that play every year or two. Never gets old.
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12-28-2016 , 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Gary Wise
Hall of fame thought for discussion. I'm going to ask that you ignore steroids for the moment.

Manny Ramirez totaled 66.3 WAR for his career, which is likely enough to make him a surefire eventual HoFer, roids aside. He did this despite abysmal defense, both by the eye test and statistically (-276.6 Defensive value on Fangraphs). Thing is, with his defense that bad, it could be argued that a) he should have been a DH for the majority of his career and b) it was a teambuilding flaw that he and David Ortiz were on the same roster, necessitating Manny's playing the field. With that being the case, he's being credited with negative performance defense that's not entirely his own fault (at least shared with management).

Would you be inclined to give Manny some benefit of the doubt if your OF WAR standard for HoF was, say, 70 WAR?
It seems crazy to me that Ortiz is sure-fire HOF and Manny wouldn't be (if we ignore steroids for both), despite that fact that Manny is clearly the better player. He was a much better hitter (in about the same number of PAs). The knock against Manny is he was bad at defense, but as you point out that should be less of a knock against him than Ortiz.

Don't see what Ortiz has over Manny - other than people seeing him as more likable.

As for your question if I give him bonus points for not getting to play DH, I'm not sure I would. I would value players as they played, not how they perhaps should have been played.
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12-28-2016 , 04:41 PM
Ya Manny was just awesome. LOL anyone who thinks Ortiz should get in over Manny.
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12-28-2016 , 06:19 PM
Wait, people are actually on my side of the Ortiz argument? Stunning.

But the narrative! He played his whole important career in Boston! There was a bombing! He played the exact same baseball in the postseason as the regular season! So Clutch!
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12-28-2016 , 06:24 PM
Lol u
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12-28-2016 , 07:02 PM
I'm fine leaving both out tbh
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12-28-2016 , 08:53 PM
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I'm fine leaving both out tbh
same, and obviously Manny > Ortiz
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12-28-2016 , 09:02 PM
Who would you rather have as your closer?

Aroldis Chapman
Kenley Jansen
Wade Davis
Greg Holland?
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12-28-2016 , 09:13 PM
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Brock, Maddux, Palmiero, Carter


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ex-Cubs_Factor

Sosa?
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12-28-2016 , 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Captain Luffy
Who would you rather have as your closer?

Aroldis Chapman
Kenley Jansen
Wade Davis
Greg Holland?
For opening day? Whole season? One game? Playoffs? 3 years?

Not sure why you chose that group, as it is certainly not the best.
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12-28-2016 , 09:52 PM
season - Jansen
one game - Chapman
playoffs - Jansen
3 years - Jansen
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12-28-2016 , 10:26 PM
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For opening day? Whole season? One game? Playoffs? 3 years?

Not sure why you chose that group, as it is certainly not the best.
For multiple seasons. and please put a dollar value on the per season rate you would sign them for.
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12-28-2016 , 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Captain Luffy
For multiple seasons. and please put a dollar value on the per season rate you would sign them for.
No, U! That seems lot a lot of brain**** that I ain't no got.

Confidence of being happy with them throughout a 3 year contract on 1-10 scale:

Jansen-7.5
Chap-7
Davis-5.5
Holland- 3

Somebody like Machado would be a 10, your mom would be a 1.
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