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Paxton is a solid rotation piece. As long as you're not expecting peak Randy Johnson or something, he'll be fine.

Also: Rule 5 draft shows that drafting is a crapshoot ldo

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11-21-2018 , 12:47 PM

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I think he's good but not a top 10 starter.

Is that what he needs to be for this to be a good trade for the Yankees? Or is there a post that I missed somewhere? I'd put him comfortably in the 11-20 range, and that should more than justify the price the Yankees paid for him, especially given where they are on the win curve.

ETA- Yeah, I see it now after re-reading. I'd probably rather Paxton over Greinke and Morton over the next two, even if it's close, and would take Paxton over both and Verlander if contracts mattered.

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11-21-2018 , 02:06 PM

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Weird thing to tweet for somebody who hasn't tweeted in months and recovering from knee surgery, but it is more than likely just someone making a mistake on one of these newfangled computer machines.

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11-21-2018 , 03:33 PM

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So Machado cleared up his remarks about hustling. What he meant was that he doesn't "fake hustle." So, when you see him dogging it out of the batter's box, that is not "fake." He is really and sincerely is not trying. This, as opposed to people "fake" trying to run it out by giving max effort.

Glad that all got sorted out.

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11-21-2018 , 06:39 PM

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Weird thing to tweet for somebody who hasn't tweeted in months and recovering from knee surgery, but it is more than likely just someone making a mistake on one of these newfangled computer machines.

I'm sure he's pissed because he can't get past level 100 in Candy Crush or something.

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11-21-2018 , 07:02 PM

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Paxton is a very good pitcher and this trade was still dumb as **** for the Yankees. We’ve seen this high k, low walks, high fb% **** before. His peripherals translate to literally Michael Pineda’s final 2 seasons there. He’ll strike out a ton, he’ll walk relatively few, he’ll give up a ton of bombs and have an xfip 2 full runs below his era. Yankee fans and New York media will crucify him

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11-21-2018 , 07:04 PM

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Still bracing myself for the news madbum’s been traded. I know it’s for the best but

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11-21-2018 , 07:26 PM

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You'll be more disappointed when you find out MadBum is under 30 and considered used up.

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11-26-2018 , 04:00 PM

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Donaldson to Barves 1yr 23MM

Would have thought he'd join STL

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11-26-2018 , 05:22 PM

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He was arguably the best player in baseball 2 seasons ago, but that still seems high. Money aside, the Braves lineup will be stacked for the 6 weeks Donaldson is in there.

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11-26-2018 , 09:40 PM

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they planning on playing him primarily at 3B? not sure his body can handle that anymore

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11-26-2018 , 10:34 PM

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Braves signed Brian McCann too. I think that may total 7 weeks of playing time between the 2.

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11-26-2018 , 11:03 PM

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Love that the Donaldson deal is only 1 year. In 2019 there's no such thing as a bad 1 year deal. And even if he's slow coming back, we still have CAMARGO.

Also love that B-Mac is coming home. He's from here, even when he left he was always one of our guys. If he hits ~.210 again, that might be kinda rough, but I can live with it if he pops 20+ homers again.

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11-26-2018 , 11:04 PM

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Now we just need to trade any of our army of young pitching for Kluber to be the odds on NL favorite

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11-26-2018 , 11:06 PM

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Also remains to be seen what the plan is for right field.

Thanks for a great season, Markakis, but I need a cleanup hitter that can hit more than 14 homers

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11-27-2018 , 04:24 AM

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Braves did the rebuild right. That farm system is absolutely loaded with pitching talent

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11-27-2018 , 10:38 AM

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rebuilding is pretty easy when teams like arizona will give you multiple premium assets for negative war players

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11-27-2018 , 11:14 AM

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11-27-2018 , 12:11 PM

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11-27-2018 , 12:37 PM

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Holy %#}b dbacks got Shelby too my god we are all in and I love it

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Inciarte, Blair, & Swanson?

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Dbacks going all in and giving up prospects and one of their boat load of OF talent...going all in to try to win a chip while goldy and Greinke are money...what's not to like? Gotta push your chips in the middle sometime and go for it!

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LOL Arizona

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Lol at dbacks sacking up and going for it. I will gladly watch majority of their games next 3 years and hope for a World Series trip.

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Prospects prospects prospects...how many don't pan out, A LOT

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I guess I'm just a dbacks fan that's been watching Mediocre (at best) baseball last 6-7 years so I would rather them go all in and give us a good 3-4 year window to do something. Can't win if you don't put your chips in the middle. Only time will tell....

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I also don't think you guys realize the OF depth dbacks have...Swanson/Blair "could" come back to sting but if it's just one of those two that pans out then I take the trade all day. Dbacks also have nick Ahmed who's beyond excellent defender

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If dbacks have at least two good playoff runs in next 4 years then this trade will be 100% worth the risk

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^25 years old, 171 K's last year and originally in cardinals system...I will take our chances. Yes we somewhat overpaid IF Swanson and Blair both go off. Swanson could easily be a Gordon backham type and wasn't a clear cut #1 pick anyways....as I said before gotta pay to play and dbacks obviously liked pollock A LOT

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Ok, what you guys don't understand is dbacks have OF depth and can afford to "overpay". You do realize dbacks were one of best defensive teams in the NL and had the 2nd most runs scored in NL. Add a top 5 starting pitcher lineup and instant contender. That is all

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The price for trading for SP is astronomically high right now....lets see how much the Dodgers give up for Jose and then get back to me. Dbacks were all in after Greinke signing and had to get another arm to solidify that deal. Throw in a once in a generation talent (Goldy) at possibly the best contract in baseball....why the F not go for it. As I said if dbacks make two good playoff runs in next 4 years and possibly go to World Series once in next 4 years then no one will ever say they overpaid...they would have PAID to PLAY

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Lots of dbacks hate in here, we'll see how it shakes out but you can't blame a dbacks fan for being legitimately excited for the first time in a decade. Last time the dbacks went all in the beat the Yankees in an epic World Series so they've done it before.......

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'When you look at Shelby Miller you look at a guy who was just traded for Jason Heyward, who is worth $200 million'
-Dave Stewart

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you guys do remember that shelby miller had 15 (FIFTEEN) starts last year where he allowed 1 ER or less.........

also huge LOL at Goldy making 5.75 million this year....

as I said again....strike while the iron is hot and go for it for three years and see what happens

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^ I don't believe that....gunna have to be a homer and say it's a dead heat for NL west favorite at the moment

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Good article on the rarity of trading a #1 pick

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-bi...030031045.html

Cliffs: lol dbacks

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^ how many #1 picks are currently in hall of fame...zero

Griffey will be the first

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Just saying you guys act like Swanson is Derek Jeter...dbacks gave up what it took to get an all star #2 pitcher...the price of young controllable SP is expensive obv

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I'm happy we got Shelby, he's only 25 and didn't he have no hitters going into 6-7th innings like 5-6 time last year? That sounds like #2 material to me.

Dbacks pushing the chips all in which is great to see from a small market club. Goldy/Greinke in their prime so let's see how the chips fall next 3 years before the trade can even be judged...

Obviously dbacks offered same package and possibly more to Marlins and it wasn't enough so I don't think people ITT are understanding the value of young good SP available FOR TRADE right now. Did they give up a lot...yes they possibly did but that's what it took to keep pollock so I'm okay with it.

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Cool, I admit the dbacks paid a steep price for Shelby Miller but if they go deep a few times in playoffs next couple years it will obviously be worth it right?

And let me know which other starter we could have got for that package? I'm sure the dbacks did their due diligence and Shelby Miller was best option without giving up AJ Polluck

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In before dbacks are in NLCS at least once in next 3 years and dansby Swanson is the next Gordon Beckham

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Dbacks gave up too much for Miller (obv) but they are the NL West favorites now. LAD not nearly as good without Greinke and SF just not much more than a .500ish team.

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Are they competing for WAR numbers or wins? I forgot which one

Good times

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11-27-2018 , 12:39 PM

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i remember that guys nfl posting being equally terrible

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11-27-2018 , 02:06 PM

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Surely I made a post or two about it.

Dbacks made a few trades with Braves. Touki and Arroyo for $ saved. The Upton trade.

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11-27-2018 , 08:07 PM

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Remember how bad RMTHawk was about the Orioles? Almost as bad as dbacks homer up in this.

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