MLB Off-season Thread 2018-19
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, 12:32 AM
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, 01:22 AM
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Well he had to give up two years of FA to get that contract. I don't blame him for signing, but the team was basically holding him hostage. If he didn't sign this contract he would have been kept in the minors just long enough to not accrue a year of service time, thereby allowing white Sox to go year by year for 7 seasons.
I think 6/43 on it's own is fair. Giving up 2 years of prime FA is what skews the deal in favor of the team.
Yeah he could get hurt, but on the other hand his upside is that of Bryant, Harper, Arenado where he would make well over $43MM in 6 years AND command huge money once he hits the open market 2 years earlier.
The arguments about 300+MM are irrelevant to this discussion as those guys played out at least most of the 6 years before FA. The biggest problem with the current CBA is young players getting pressured into either signing team friendly deals or having their service time manipulated. To make matters worse they have little to no representation on the players union as it's made up of mostly veterans over the 6 year mark.
I think 6/43 on it's own is fair. Giving up 2 years of prime FA is what skews the deal in favor of the team.
Yeah he could get hurt, but on the other hand his upside is that of Bryant, Harper, Arenado where he would make well over $43MM in 6 years AND command huge money once he hits the open market 2 years earlier.
The arguments about 300+MM are irrelevant to this discussion as those guys played out at least most of the 6 years before FA. The biggest problem with the current CBA is young players getting pressured into either signing team friendly deals or having their service time manipulated. To make matters worse they have little to no representation on the players union as it's made up of mostly veterans over the 6 year mark.
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No, the two club options make it a reasonable endeavor for the white sox. Otherwise, they have no incentive to do this deal and would hold him down, save 3 weeks, and get an extra year of control and go year to year. He's still getting paid for the club options (if exercised), he's simply starting his career now instead of in a couple weeks time and locking in $43MM at little risk. The first club option is a season that they would have had him under club control for anyway as his final year of arbitration, since they would have held him down. Instead of 3 seasons league min and 4 seasons of arbitration, he now starts his career, guarantees a $43MM payday* without needing to worry about that stuff, and all it cost him was potentially hitting free agency a year later.
*The $43MM shatters a record for players with 0 service time, beating Kingery (6/24MM) from last season, and I think it ranks 2nd behind Andrelton Simmons in biggest for players with less than 2 years of service. This is a huge payday, and even an aggressive, record-setting projection through arbitration wouldn't net him much more of a guarantee.
My quick research suggests that if he matched the records for arbitration for each year, his three years of rookie contract, plus his 4 years of arbitration, comes to $65.1MM. This contract maxes out at $75MM over an extra season (plus an extra 2.5MM for every MVP!).
If he's so good that this becomes a poor deal for him in hindsight, surely to God he'll still be good one year later at age 29 and be paid handsomely for it.
If anything, this is reckless from the White Sox side, given precedents.
*The $43MM shatters a record for players with 0 service time, beating Kingery (6/24MM) from last season, and I think it ranks 2nd behind Andrelton Simmons in biggest for players with less than 2 years of service. This is a huge payday, and even an aggressive, record-setting projection through arbitration wouldn't net him much more of a guarantee.
My quick research suggests that if he matched the records for arbitration for each year, his three years of rookie contract, plus his 4 years of arbitration, comes to $65.1MM. This contract maxes out at $75MM over an extra season (plus an extra 2.5MM for every MVP!).
If he's so good that this becomes a poor deal for him in hindsight, surely to God he'll still be good one year later at age 29 and be paid handsomely for it.
If anything, this is reckless from the White Sox side, given precedents.
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