****. i blame tug.

thread keeps on winning

yeah ump's not squeezing timmy



2 of his 3 walks are bull****. lol blue

lol pretty standard blown call.

when there are multiple pitches on the black or in the strikezone on all four sides called balls then i think it is fair to say the ump is squeezing the pitcher:



that is 9 pitches in or on the black called balls. if you can find more than one pitch that timmy threw outside the strikezone which was called a strike i will be impressed.

I'm not saying he didn't get "squeezed" by your definition, just that it is pretty standard and you could probably complain about it most games

I mean here is Liriano's start from tonight, didn't even get one called strike outside the zone

i disagree. i don't think i could complain about 1 starting pitcher throwing 9 pitches on the black or in the strikezone that were called balls and all of 1 pitch on the black and 0 outside the strike zone that were called strikes in most games. i understand that umpires are not perfect, but generally they are not perfect in a manner that is slightly more fair to the pitcher.



looks to me like timmy pitched a fantastic game while getting squeezed against a pretty good offense in the most extreme hitters park in mlb. i am a little biased tho.

edit: yes it does appear that the ump was taking away one side of the plate from liriano. i didn't watch the game though so i am less sure about it but it does not look good. even more evidence that mlb needs robot umps imo.

Phildo I thought you didn't like this thread?

i don't. that's why i crapped this thread up with my drunken umpire whining instead of a thread i do like.

Touche.

that S next to the red dot in the key means *called* strike, right? or do the plots that only have B/S/X mix all strikes together?

if they don't, i must be missing some kind of level. timmay got a called strike outside the zone in the first one phildo posted, and then thegameau said that liriano did not get a single called strike outside the zone... when he had at least 5.

no, in the b/s/x chart the red is all strikes. every strike timmy threw tonight outside the strike zone was swinging. you can check it against the last chart i posted, which shows swinging strikes and called strikes separately but is kind of a pain in the ass to read.

i would assume at least most of the ones outside the zone from liriano's chart are swinging strikes too but i'm not gonna look it up.

Josh Johnson no-hitter thru 4.

success!

josh johnson making weekly appearances itt

he hasnt given up a hit the first time through the order yet

Anibal Sanchez no hitter through 6!

Through 7.

free watch on mlb.tv

also jose bautista cycle watch first up in bottom 8th needs a single

Through 8.

the last thing this world needs is ANOTHER no hitter by a marlin. Hopefully he gives up 4 in the 9th

I tried to trade for Anibal two days ago. I guess that ship has sailed.

to the 9th!