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07-16-2010 , 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt Williams
The only reason guys like A-Rod and Swisher are on that list is because they made the AS team when better candidates were left off.
Well no, A-Rod is on that list for about a million reasons.

Swisher is on the list because of the All-Star game thing, and because everyone still thinks he sucks because he has a low batting average. And because haters gonna hate (this applies to both.).
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07-16-2010 , 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by nutshot2
Well no, A-Rod is on that list for about a million reasons.

Swisher is on the list because of the All-Star game thing, and because everyone still thinks he sucks because he has a low batting average. And because haters gonna hate (this applies to both.).
True, they see his low BA and HR's and are jealous of the money he makes.
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07-16-2010 , 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt Williams
True, they see his low BA and HR's and are jealous of the money he makes.
Well that and he's the worlds biggest douche. Dont get me wrong he's a great player, but still he's a spectacular douche and its easy to see why he would end up on that list.
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07-16-2010 , 03:32 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/m...ory?id=5386264

if skip bayless trolls derek jeter fans about this i will be giddy
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07-16-2010 , 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Thundercat32
Yankees > Twins
Rangers > Rays

Padres > Giants
Cards > Braves

Yankees > Rangers
Cards > Padres

Yankees > Cards

bonus prediction, I'll contemplate suicide.
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Originally Posted by Matt Williams
I'm surprised a lot of people are picking the Tigers. Didn't they just play 6 series in a row vs all the teams in last place? I think the Twins take the Central.

Yankees over Twins
Rangers over Tampa
Yankees over Rangers

Atlanta over Reds
Padres over Giants
Atlanta over Padres

Yankees over Atlanta

For Not Lolo's eyes only:
Spoiler:

I know people dont follow the NL West but i think it's the same for other divisions afaik, you cant play a team in your division during LDS play
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07-16-2010 , 04:22 PM
I thought that was what the spoiler was for in Matt Williams' post.
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07-16-2010 , 08:16 PM
Yeah i wasn't sure about that, I was going off of recent memory. I thought I saw an NL West champ open with an NL West wild card team before, whoops.

So what is the rule there? Best record faces the Wild Card team (unless its from its own division) or is it they face the worst record unless its the WC team from their won division. The the 2nd best record plays the remaining team.
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07-16-2010 , 08:26 PM
I've taken some time to reflect. I don't want to beat a dead horse, but there were a couple of interesting conversations started. There were also some things I didn't understand from the "Yankees are bad for baseball" discussion. Thats a poor way to phrase it, but you know the conversation I'm speaking of. I'm going to keep this short and just focus on one item at a time.

I used the Royals as my poster boy/whipping boy when talking about teams that aren't able to compete. kyleb said they do spend money and they have landed several free agents. I'm paraphrasing, but in essence the statement was its not money thats their problem its poor management. I agree with the concept you don't need money to compete, all you need to do is a good job managing your team. I think what I'm saying is without money you need to be about 1,000x better at managing your organization than if you do have money. That doesn't seem "fair" to me.

Here's what I don't understand. The Royals have signed Gil Meche, another poster brought up Jose Guillen, and I can't think of any other significant signings they've had recently. Honestly, a decrepit old Juan Gonzalez/Benito Santiago are big signings for the Royals. At the same time they haven't been able to keep Johnny Damon or Carlos Beltran or even Leo Nunez. So I just don't see how you can compare the two teams. I don't think the Yankees will ever worry they can't acquire a player b/c the Royals are going to outbid them, but I think that is a day in day out constant fear for the Royals.
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07-16-2010 , 10:13 PM
2nd half lets see who is for real!
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07-16-2010 , 10:16 PM
Strasburg
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07-16-2010 , 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by PocketChads
I thought that was what the spoiler was for in Matt Williams' post.
Winnah!
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07-16-2010 , 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Thundercat32
I've taken some time to reflect. I don't want to beat a dead horse, but there were a couple of interesting conversations started. There were also some things I didn't understand from the "Yankees are bad for baseball" discussion. Thats a poor way to phrase it, but you know the conversation I'm speaking of. I'm going to keep this short and just focus on one item at a time.

I used the Royals as my poster boy/whipping boy when talking about teams that aren't able to compete. kyleb said they do spend money and they have landed several free agents. I'm paraphrasing, but in essence the statement was its not money thats their problem its poor management. I agree with the concept you don't need money to compete, all you need to do is a good job managing your team. I think what I'm saying is without money you need to be about 1,000x better at managing your organization than if you do have money. That doesn't seem "fair" to me.

Here's what I don't understand. The Royals have signed Gil Meche, another poster brought up Jose Guillen, and I can't think of any other significant signings they've had recently. Honestly, a decrepit old Juan Gonzalez/Benito Santiago are big signings for the Royals. At the same time they haven't been able to keep Johnny Damon or Carlos Beltran or even Leo Nunez. So I just don't see how you can compare the two teams. I don't think the Yankees will ever worry they can't acquire a player b/c the Royals are going to outbid them, but I think that is a day in day out constant fear for the Royals.
Yea you really can't compare the Yankees to the Royals when it comes to signing FA's. But the Royals have made some really bad mistakes. Read Joe Posnanski to get an idea.

I'm sure part of the problem is that FA's don't want anything to do w/ teams like KC if at all possible. So that could be a reason that the Royals overpay for ****ty FA's on the decline.
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07-17-2010 , 01:27 AM
MW,

I found joeposnanski.com and did a search for Kansas City Roayls. There's definitely 2 or 3 articles that stuck out to me, but there were alot of articles that didn't necessarily pertain to the Royals or their spending habits. Do you have any articles in particular I should read first? The Diary of a Losing Team articles look like the best place to start so far.
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07-17-2010 , 01:49 AM
Jumping on the Brewers bandwagon recently, my most pressing concern is how should Doug Melvin handle Corey Hart? Without a doubt he's running above expectation this year, but my question is by how much? I'm looking for a way to quantify that and looking for some help from the fine minds of this forum.

Fangraphs did a great article on the HR Derby contestants here:

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index...y-contestants/

That gives you some idea Hart has had luck on his side this season, but I'm still looking for to what degree. Looking at his numbers on Fangraphs a few things jump out at you. His HR/FB is 19.5% that seems really high, considering his previous high for a full season was 13%. I found a website that listed 10% as the major league average for 2009, nothing that lists the average for 2010 (unfortunately fangraphs doesn't provide this average underneath like they do for many other stats). To me thats the most telling stat, but I wonder how much should I consider his ISO? Hart's ISO has always been above league average. So it would make sense his HR/FB% would be higher than say Juan Pierre, or am I misunderstanding that statistic?

Hart's BaBip is a little above league average, Hart .309, LA .299. He's actually striking out a little more than he has before, and his contact % hasn't gone up, in fact its dipped a little bit. One encouraging sign is for a 28 yr old player, his walk rate has increased over the past 2 years. It had no where to go, but up. Still you couple that with his O-swing % going down significantly, from being way above league avg to below league avg. You look at a hitter who looks like he's figuring some things out at the plate.

Right now, I'm guessing Hart hits like 35+ HRs this year and I believe thats high for him, but is he a guy that could routinely average 25+? Another thought I'd like to have with his strikeout % going up this year. Does anyone know where I can find statistics for how many of his home runs were hit with 0 strikes, 1 strike, 2 strikes? I'm thinking he could be a guy that isn't comfortable hitting with 2 strikes, whereas a guy like Pujols who sees more pitches I would think his 2 strike home run totals would be higher than most power hitters.

Last edited by Thundercat32; 07-17-2010 at 01:56 AM.
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07-17-2010 , 03:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Not Lolo
2nd half lets see who is for real!
yeah hey at least we can all enjoy some good baseball despite everything else

so excited about this second half
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07-17-2010 , 04:38 AM
Jesus, the Red Sox are running Fernando Cabrera out there? That's embarrassing.
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07-17-2010 , 04:47 AM
kyleb,

care to chime in on the Royals/Yankees discussion above?
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07-17-2010 , 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Thundercat32
His HR/FB is 19.5% that seems really high, considering his previous high for a full season was 13%. I found a website that listed 10% as the major league average for 2009, nothing that lists the average for 2010 (unfortunately fangraphs doesn't provide this average underneath like they do for many other stats). To me thats the most telling stat, but I wonder how much should I consider his ISO? Hart's ISO has always been above league average. So it would make sense his HR/FB% would be higher than say Juan Pierre, or am I misunderstanding that statistic?
It definitely varies by hitter to the point that ML averages aren't very useful. Bonds' 2002-2007 is 25.1%, Pierre is 1.1%. 19.5% is probably running good for Hart; I'm guessing 15% or so is reasonable.

I think Hart can definitely average 25-30 HRs a year.
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07-17-2010 , 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by DCIAce
It definitely varies by hitter to the point that ML averages aren't very useful. Bonds' 2002-2007 is 25.1%, Pierre is 1.1%. 19.5% is probably running good for Hart; I'm guessing 15% or so is reasonable.

I think Hart can definitely average 25-30 HRs a year.
Bonds got lucky to hit a few HR and suddenly you all think he's the GOAT.

I guess when you hammer a nail for so long, everything starts looking like Not Lolo.
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07-17-2010 , 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by kyleb
Jesus, the Red Sox are running Fernando Cabrera out there? That's embarrassing.
giving up a triple to Benji Molina is more embarrassing, imo
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07-17-2010 , 09:01 AM
TC, I gotta ask you. How and why are you switching teams in the middle of the season?

I for one would never do that, been a Phils fan since I was a young lad, and that wont ever change.
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07-17-2010 , 09:13 AM
Injuries are cool

UpdatedPlayerPosInjuryExpected Return
07/13/10Mike Lowell3BHip15-day DL. Out until at least late July
07/05/10Jeremy HermidaRFRibs, forearm15-day DL. Out until at least late July
07/05/10Dustin Pedroia2BFoot15-day DL. Out until at least late July
06/27/10Jacoby EllsburyCFChest, back15-day DL. Out until at least late July
07/11/10Josh BeckettSPBack15-day DL. On Triple-A rehab assignment
07/12/10Adrian Beltre3BHamstringProbable for July 15-18 series vs. Texas
07/14/10Clay BuchholzSPHamstring15-day DL. Expected to make Triple-A rehab start July 16
07/11/10Mike CameronCFWristQuestionable for July 15-18 series vs. Texas
07/14/10Manny DelcarmenRPForearm15-day DL. On Double-A rehab assignment. Eligible to return July 16 vs. Texas
07/05/10Jed LowrieSSMononucleosis60-day DL. On Class A rehab assignment
07/13/10Victor MartinezCThumb15-day DL. Out until at least late July
07/02/10Jason VaritekCFoot15-day DL. Out until at least early August
04/04/10Junichi TazawaRPElbow60-day DL. Out for the season
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07-17-2010 , 09:36 AM
No Bengie Molina love? C'mon Thundercat
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07-17-2010 , 10:20 AM
in the vein of articles running on fangraphs right now

TOP TEN MOST VALUABLE RED SOX PLAYER ASSETS 7/17/2010

factors considered: salary, service time, expected future performance and potential for compensation draft picks

1) dustin pedroia
2) jon lester
3) kevin youkilis
4) clay buchholz
5) jed lowrie (CONTROVERSY)
6) ryan kalish
7) daniel bard
8) adrian beltre
9) victor martinez
10) marco scutaro

now u guys do ur team holla
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07-17-2010 , 10:22 AM
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Jesus, the Red Sox are running Fernando Cabrera out there? That's embarrassing.
I was at Fenway last night and looked up at the scoreboard at one point. The lineup was

M Scutaro
E Patterson
D Ortiz DH
K Youkilis
J Drew RF
A Beltre 3B
D Nava LF
B Hall 2B
K Cash C

I couldn't even believe it. this team is sinking fast, they would stay afloat in the NL Central, but not in the AL East like this
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