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LeBron = GOAT Containment Thread: SABR42, LuckyLloyd, & borg23 Co-MVPs b/c of post #20163

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MJ (Michael or Maple)

318 53.36%

Therapist

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George Mikan

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Shaq Attaq

21 3.52%

Wilt the Stilt (100 pts yo)

13 2.18%

Timmy "Big Fundamentals" Duncan

20 3.36%

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06-11-2013 , 06:55 PM

#701

AllBlackDan

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Not the GOAT yet but Lebron has the potential

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06-11-2013 , 07:24 PM

#702

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Originally Posted by AcTiOnJaCsOn

In all seriousness, I think a lot of peoples opinions are formed b/c of personality; rightfully or wrongfully. Both of them seem like massive douche bags, but jordan more so in an alpha way juxtaposed to lebrons insecure beta-douche schtick.

Lebron will host the decision, or choke in the finals vrs dallas and talk about how ****ty other peoples lives are and how they are waking up so said ****ty lives--which was he points out and/or implys, doesn't bother him at all. Jordans never been in a position like that, but I imagine he would give the other team no credit whatsoever in the presser, go get drunk, bang some prostitutes, and bet 100k a hand in blackjack. Despite being a bad husband and morally bankrupt at times, Jordan's alpha mystique on and off the court is something that cant be touched by lebron.

Not saying this goes into my decision of who is the GOAT. Like many others, I think MJ is the clear GOAT right now but bron has non-negligible equity. Like i mentioned earlier however, I think its human nature for some people to judge these guys based on their personality traits.

You're underrating how big of an impact winning has on general public perception. If Lebron wins a bunch of titles people will be gushing about how nice of a guy Lebron was, that he was a great teammate, etc. You can already find articles after last year's finals praising him for his style of leadership and all that bs.

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06-11-2013 , 07:35 PM

#703

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Originally Posted by darO

I have MJ > Lebron right now but the Jortards in general have awful awful awful arguments

this is all that needs to be said on this topic for the next 5 years or so

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06-11-2013 , 07:39 PM

#704

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Originally Posted by Assani Fisher

I agree with you that its frustrating, and its pretty obvious that those close minded pro-Jordan guys in this argument are putting forth horrendous arguments. But I think that overcoming this close-mindedness that exists in popular opinion is kinda a requirement of becoming the true GOAT. Jordan totally went through this.

Imagine the internet being around in the late 80s- casual fans would be 100% convinced that Bird/Magic > MJ because they played better team basketball and knew how to win games. And how pissed off would the stat guys gets when causal fans started saying that Isiah Thomas > MJ after his team won 2 titles while dominating the Bulls along the way? MJ overcame this and convinced everyone that he was the GOAT.

Great post.

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06-11-2013 , 08:14 PM

#705

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This is the second most tilting argument for me behind the 6/6 thing. That somehow in the 80s/early 90s, coming off an era where baseball was >>> basketball popularity-wise in US high schools, where basketball players made significantly less salary relative to other pro sports than they do now, when the international penetration of the NBA was virtually non-existent, and when strategy was still in its infancy, that the NBA was somehow tougher than it is now. This complete defies any logic, but is just repeatedly asserted as fact regardless.

Yeah but dont you remember how much of a BADASS Bill Lambeer was? And also there was Jordan! Jordan had to play in an era that had JORDAN, the GOAT. Lebron never had to do that!

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06-11-2013 , 08:15 PM

#706

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Haha.

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06-11-2013 , 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by capone0

But repeatedly losing in the 1st round is cool b/c he didn't lose on the biggest stage?

Imagine if Lebron who had a 28 PER in his 3rd year in the NBA, went to any decent college. Not sure he would have lost his last 2 years in college the way he was playing at the NBA level.

This is cool:

Year 0 (before he got there)-27-55
Year 1 38-44 (lost 3-1 to the bucks in R1)
Year 2 30-52 (Swept by the Celtics in R1, MJ hurt most of the year)

BTW, this is the record for worst record to make the playoffs.

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06-11-2013 , 09:40 PM

#708

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From this thread, basically if your opinion is that Jordan is the GOAT you are an idiot, but if you think Lebron is, then it's a great post/opinion. Got it.

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06-11-2013 , 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by EdBratz66

From this thread, basically if your opinion is that Jordan is the GOAT you are an idiot, but if you think Lebron is, then it's a great post/opinion. Got it.

team mj
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yeah checks out.

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06-11-2013 , 10:48 PM

#710

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2/12 in 2 straight finals game

Lol@better than MJ

Lock this up until labron gets some WIM

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06-11-2013 , 10:52 PM

#711

Clare Quilty

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Probable GOAT GOATing it up tonight ldo

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06-11-2013 , 10:56 PM

#712

BossmanJR

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LOCK IT UP. LEBRONS LEGACY WILL NEVER RECOVER. UNLESS IT DOES

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06-11-2013 , 10:59 PM

#713

BossmanJR

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SORRY I MAY HAVE SPOKE TOO SOON. UNLOCK IT. UNTIL HE CHOKES IN THE 4TH THEN LOCK IT AGAIN. UNLESS HE CLOSES

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06-11-2013 , 10:59 PM

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edit: wrong thread

Last edited by monikrazy; 06-11-2013 at 11:01 PM. Reason: lebron still a choker though

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06-11-2013 , 11:01 PM

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Free thread champion Trainwreck.

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06-11-2013 , 11:07 PM

#716

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Labron is a beta male.

Maybe goat talent but just too passive.

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06-11-2013 , 11:12 PM

#717

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i'm trying to figure out what's going on with LeBron, apparently if he's "bleating" that's a problem

from "Recognizing a Sick Goat":

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Goats, when content and in good health, are usually quiet creatures of habit, full of energy, playful, curious, rambunctious as well as mischievous. It’s not often that you will hear a goat bleating (crying) for no apparent reason, and if you do, it most often signals that something is wrong. There are exceptions to the rule - some goats are prone to making various moaning and groaning noises which are not considered bleating, and under most circumstances, signify that they are somewhat content.

http://www.goatworld.com/articles/be...sickgoat.shtml

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06-11-2013 , 11:13 PM

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Bomp

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06-11-2013 , 11:15 PM

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Lol this thread should be fun.

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06-11-2013 , 11:17 PM

#720

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LOL @ the late '90s Jazz having a chance in hell against this Spurs team.

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06-11-2013 , 11:17 PM

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MJ is clearly better than Lebron because Lebron's team is losing right now and MJ's team never lost a game ever.

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06-11-2013 , 11:19 PM

#722

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Originally Posted by gusmahler

MJ is clearly better than Lebron because Lebron's team is losing right now and MJ's team never lost a game ever.

The criticism is Lebron had 2 points before the game was effectively over.

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06-11-2013 , 11:19 PM

#723

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lebron obv goat

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06-11-2013 , 11:20 PM

#724

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SO MUCH WIL BY LABRON TONIGHT

It's not even close. lol @ this thread. MJ will always be the GOAT

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06-11-2013 , 11:21 PM

#725

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Originally Posted by AUGUY55

SO MUCH WIL BY LABRON TONIGHT

It's not even close. lol @ this thread. MJ will always be the GOAT

Apparently you didn't see that block he had the other night

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