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LeBron = GOAT Containment Thread: SABR42, LuckyLloyd, & borg23 Co-MVPs b/c of post #20163 LeBron = GOAT Containment Thread: SABR42, LuckyLloyd, & borg23 Co-MVPs b/c of post #20163
View Poll Results: GOAT?
labron
181 30.42%
MJ (Michael or Maple)
317 53.28%
Therapist
8 1.34%
George Mikan
5 0.84%
Shaq Attaq
21 3.53%
Wilt the Stilt (100 pts yo)
13 2.18%
Timmy "Big Fundamentals" Duncan
20 3.36%
"Roger Murdock"
3 0.50%
Enchanted AIDS Wang (er, HIV+?)
9 1.51%
Larry Legend (+ HM to Bill Russell's laugh)
18 3.03%

05-28-2020 , 09:59 PM
Michael Jordan was the greatest human to ever play in the nba.

Spoiler:
Wilt was something else. Not human.
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05-29-2020 , 01:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Victor
ya but he brought a title to the losingest town in sports history over a 73 win team leading in every statistical category.
The failure vs the mavs is as big as the win vs the warriors .
Problem with your kind is you only focus on the good with lebron and disregarding his failure and always focus the negative with MJ and diminishing his success .
Pretty fair sense of relativity .....
I mean already thinking lebron was goat in 2013 just discredit any arguments you can make anyway .....
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05-29-2020 , 02:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Victor
pretty sure you have never watched Lebron in the playoffs if you dont think hes clutch and you dont think hes the most dangerous player for a final shot in NBA history.

like, I cant even count all of his playoff game winners.
You just go with raw number because lebron his the 4th player having the most games played in the play offs ....
So lebron got as well In the playoffs the most :-
- most field goal attempts
- most field goal miss
- most turnovers
- most minutes
- most points

There is some good as well like most steals and even most free throw made lol ....
But the point is , he always got the ball in his hand so obviously he got the raw numbers And thx to weak ass east he did a lot in the playoffs but when average % are taken into account , strangely he disappeared .....and MJ is all over the place .

Simple , MJ just did more in less game and time .
Clearly MJ more efficient in any categories .
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05-29-2020 , 04:26 AM
I'd like to expound on what Victor said and say...

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pretty sure you have never watched Lebron in the playoffs if you dont think hes clutch and you dont think hes the most dangerous player to make the best decision for a final shot in NBA history.
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05-29-2020 , 04:35 AM
LeBron is no doubt a GOAT-level decision-maker.

His haters say he's scared to take the last shot so he passes it so often, but these are the same morons who praised Jordan for passing to John Paxson and Steve Kerr.
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05-29-2020 , 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by All-inMcLovin
Wilt was something else. Not human.
Something that happened to come to my attention recently was this exchange from "Airplane," which I've seen many times, but not in quite a while:

Joey: I think you're the greatest, but my dad says you don't work hard enough on defense. And he says that lots of times, you don't even run down court. And that you don't really try... except during the playoffs.

Murdock [KAREEM]: The hell I don't!! ( grabs Joey by collar ) LISTEN KID! I've been hearing that crap ever since I was at UCLA. I'm out there busting my buns every night. Tell your old man to drag Walton and Lanier up and down the court for 48 minutes.

So it's clearly implied that Bob Lanier was a big/physical center in Kareem's day. Lanier was the guy that said the most memorable feat during his entire athletic career was "when Wilt picked me up and moved me like a cup of coffee."
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05-29-2020 , 09:59 AM


Imagine DAJ with touch, maybe a little faster and more nimble. DAJ is a decent passer for a 5 fwiw.
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05-29-2020 , 10:08 AM
Fwiw, Stan has talked about how Dwight was saying he couldn't do anything with Pekovic during a timeout in their first matchup.

Remember Stan saying Dwight wandered over to the bench frustrated and was like, "That's the strongest man in the world."

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"There's one guy in the NBA who could almost certainly become one of the best MMA fighters in the world. I swear to you that he looks like someone who could become a great MMA fighter and I say this on the basis of his physical predisposition. He could easily become a champion! Did you see him? He is 6'11" tall and has 286 pounds." said Howard.

Darvin Ham, LA Lakers Assistant Coach and also an MMA fan, agrees with Howard’s story. "Yes, yes with that neck, he'd be a helluva MMA fighter."
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Despite popular opinion, the Mavericks can dispel one myth about Dwight Howard.

"We're all strong. He's not the strongest guy in this league. We all lift weights. I lift weights. I'm just as strong as he is. So, it has nothing to do with weight-room muscles. It's about playing the game of basketball the right way. If I foul someone, I'm sure the officials are going to call it. If he does, they're going to call it. So you just got to play smart."

"He's not the strongest guy in the league," Amar'e Stoudemire said Tuesday.

Stoudemire listed Minnesota's Nikola Pekovic as his vote for the NBA's strongest player in the paint.
PEK
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05-29-2020 , 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by All-inMcLovin
I'd like to expound on what Victor said and say...
Yeah I like this one much better .
But to make the final shot no way lebron is better than someone like bird for example .
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05-29-2020 , 02:03 PM
Thanks Montreal
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05-29-2020 , 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp
Yeah I like this one much better .
But to make the final shot no way lebron is better than someone like bird for example .
what an absolutely idiotic thing to say. not only is Lebron clearly better at scoring than Bird he is also about a million times better at creating a shot. you know, thats pretty important for the last possession of the game when everyone knows who is gonna try to score.

Larry Bird makes a shot like this approximately never against modern defense.

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05-29-2020 , 02:46 PM
seriously I am just loling at the idea that Larry ****ing Bird could be better at the last shot than Lebron. like, wtf is wrong with you people.
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05-29-2020 , 02:55 PM
Should've posted the last second shot off the glass.
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05-29-2020 , 02:55 PM
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05-29-2020 , 02:58 PM
Bird throws dorky behind the head passes that I do.

C'mon now. He was just really smart and had size. Bird v Bron is such a laughable conversation. Bird, Nash, Luka are all largely the same guy just in varying sized packages - Bird with by far the poorest handle of the lot.
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05-29-2020 , 03:03 PM
Add Jokic to that list of slow, smart white guys who all see the game the same.
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05-29-2020 , 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by DodgerIrish
LeBron said post-game that he had practiced this exact shot for game winning purposes.

He's always 2 moves ahead.

#LeBronTheChessPlayer
#GOAT
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05-29-2020 , 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by DodgerIrish
Bird throws dorky behind the head passes that I do.

C'mon now. He was just really smart and had size. Bird v Bron is such a laughable conversation. Bird, Nash, Luka are all largely the same guy just in varying sized packages - Bird with by far the poorest handle of the lot.
Bird was more on interior player than the other two. Better in the post. And relative to contemporaries he had unheard of handles with both hands. Game has advanced since then, but Bird was playing modern ball in some senses.
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05-29-2020 , 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
seriously I am just loling at the idea that Larry ****ing Bird could be better at the last shot than Lebron. like, wtf is wrong with you people.
My working hypothesis is only Trump supporters have the cognitive ability to believe that.
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05-29-2020 , 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by bacalaopeace
Bird was more on interior player than the other two. Better in the post. And relative to contemporaries he had unheard of handles with both hands. Game has advanced since then, but Bird was playing modern ball in some senses.
I agree. I think he'd still be a sick 4 in the same way that Dirk wasn't some sprinter out there.

Comparing him to Bron was the crux of the point. There's no comparison who you'd want to have the ball in their hands to get a shot at the end of a clock.
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05-30-2020 , 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by DodgerIrish
lololol forgot about that one. dude has so many iconic game winners that his fans forget some of the best even. and people itt trying to say Bird is better with the game on the line. just lol.
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05-30-2020 , 10:43 AM
This is the other one that sticks out in my mind (his whole 4th qtr against Detroit should be posted too).

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05-30-2020 , 04:21 PM
Bird was a threat from practically anywhere inside half court. I don't care if you had him pinned in a corner and he couldn't see the basket.

Magic was legendary for game-winners:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJiGMFmVHO8
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05-30-2020 , 10:29 PM
LARBON GETTIN HIS CARB ON

Bring back the playoffs.

Let's get some more GAME WINNERS!
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05-30-2020 , 11:18 PM
C's rule Lakers suck gOOd niTE Now.

Naka on the upswing AI. Good for him. He learned some humility and now his talent in this online age is rising to the top. tbh i heard stories and witnesses some classless behavior. but that is in the past. Not easy being world class and Naka and Magnus are credits to their race. the race of genius freaks.
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