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Old 01-19-2013, 11:24 PM   #2726
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It never ends. And, the timing of each development makes it an elite story over the last 20 years at least.
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Old 01-19-2013, 11:30 PM   #2727
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This wasn't a white lie.
regardless, it's a lie to avoid having to lie for the next 20 minutes. And, this is the least of the issues I have with Te'o. No problem with him lying to his parents, every kid in America does that ****.
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Old 01-19-2013, 11:43 PM   #2728
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Didn't he only lie once to his parents about having met MK? I can see why he would lie about it.
SIAP As of yesterday's news. Teo was supposed to meet Lennay in Hawaii in a meeting that failed to materialize. So he just told his parents that he met her to avoid embarassment. That is the origin of why Teo Sr. told the media that Teo and Lennay got along great in real life.
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Old 01-19-2013, 11:47 PM   #2729
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This wasn't a white lie.
Yeah you're right.

But at the time, who did it hurt? Who did it affect? It was completely harmless.
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Old 01-19-2013, 11:48 PM   #2730
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I mean the most common question people ask (and interviewers did ask) is "how did you meet". He repeatedly lied. The whole thing was like a massive self loathing shame cycle which actually I guess drove him closer to "her".
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Old 01-19-2013, 11:52 PM   #2731
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the phone sex must have been outstanding .....for him to go through all this and be in love.
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Old 01-20-2013, 12:01 AM   #2732
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Old 01-20-2013, 12:05 AM   #2733
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I'm guessing there's at least 50% chance some of the phone conversations were taped. If so, they will come out sooner or later I'd have to think.
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Old 01-20-2013, 12:11 AM   #2734
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I mean the most common question people ask (and interviewers did ask) is "how did you meet". He repeatedly lied. The whole thing was like a massive self loathing shame cycle which actually I guess drove him closer to "her".
His interviews are sickening. He makes it seem like he has been in love with this girl for 4+ years and they have some deep connection. When in actuality he is hardly connected to her at all, and is most likely seeing other girls on the side. Once he heard of the car accident and dying of leukemia he took hold of this story because he knew it would benefit him. This is the sickest part of everything he did. He actually thought she was real and she died, and he could just use it and move on no consequences because he actually wasn't that invested emotionally.
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Old 01-20-2013, 12:16 AM   #2735
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there is no shame or embarrassment here

he's some Hawaiian Samoan Mormon Notre Dame Catholic goof who isn't supposed to be out banging sloots on the reg anyway, so i don't see the problem at all with saying "no i didn't meet her, didn't work out BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW I DON'T HAVE A CAR, and neither does she, or her brother borrowed it, and she was on the other side of the island", or whatever. none of that is a lie, why can't he say that exactly?

"no Dad, i didn't meet her"
"haha, she's a fake, you idiot!"
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this explanation for everything is completely ridiculous, and makes no sense

like the guy asks, why did the relationship progress exactly?
"i dunno, she was in a coma and stuff, seemed logical"

wat?

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Old 01-20-2013, 12:23 AM   #2736
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Old 01-20-2013, 12:40 AM   #2737
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I'm def in this camp now after getting up to date with the recent developments:

-Ronaiah is a closeted homosexual (probably due to his religion + culture) who catfishes dudes regularly. Probably had 10+ "relationships" going on as recent as 3 years ago. He does this to fulfill his desires.

-Te'o was completely duped. He was never in love with Lennay, but enjoyed the online interactions and liked the idea of someone across the country being obsessed with him. He's clearly a narcissist. They talk on the phone a few brief times. Not to the extent he says.

-His friends/teammates know of the "relationship" but think nothing of it. They've never seen her and he's not on the phone with her a lot so it's a non issue. They assume it's an incredibly minor part of his life. He's not leaving bars on guys nights to take calls from her etc.

- She "dies" and he tells his friends/teammates as a natural reaction. They tell coaches. Media finds out. Media has "girlfriend of Te'o dies of cancer" and nothing else. He fills in the blanks trying to look as compassionate as possible. Ronaiah kills her off because he wants max attention. Thinks it will make him love the relationship more even though it ends it. Same reason for the cancer angle. MAX ATTENTION. Ronaiah needs to get out of it what he feels like he is putting into it to be satisfied.

-Ronaiah is upset he ended it. Gets lonely. Reinitiates contact in early December.

-Te'o realizes he made so much of it up. Didn't think he'd have to answer to anyone. Realizes he's been duped, but understands how inconsistent his story is. He figured the only other person that knew the way the relationship really was was dead. Finally he realizes he can't fix it and it's going to break so he tells his parents.

-ND finds out. They take the details they want an spin a story that is ready to go if it breaks.
Yep. Theoretically he could not be gay, and just be a ****ing psychopath who gets off on stringing these guys along. But this seems like a pretty good list of events to me.
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Old 01-20-2013, 01:03 AM   #2738
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Best thing ever would be if the Catfish producers were behind this whole thing from the beginning. ....you know, as promotion.
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Old 01-20-2013, 01:34 AM   #2739
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I now feel like you have to consider the possibility that he's just an abject sociopath knowingly telling the most ****ing crazy lies possible and soaking in the attention.

A few pages back somebody mentioned that people get caught by Nigerian scammers- those people are not in their 20s and didn't grow up on the internet. They have the excuse of ignorance, Te'o doesn't.

For Oski's post- UW has a huge Hawaiian/Pacific Islander population. I partied with them a lot when I was in school (and with some Tuiasosopos), and I'd say they were super welcoming (especially to the weird fat white kid) more than insular or anything. If you're looking for a cultural reason to explain his naivete, I'd go religion before race.
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Old 01-20-2013, 01:38 AM   #2740
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he should just say he concocted the whole thing because it would be funny. then say he took it too far and he's sorry.
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Old 01-20-2013, 01:40 AM   #2741
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I mean the most common question people ask (and interviewers did ask) is "how did you meet". He repeatedly lied. The whole thing was like a massive self loathing shame cycle which actually I guess drove him closer to "her".
Damn, I think Clark actually gets it.
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Old 01-20-2013, 02:08 AM   #2742
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Even if he is telling the truth and believed she was real but just exaggerated their relationship, then he was willing to exploit the death of someone he barely knew for his own gain and publicity. I mean reread the SI interview or rewatch his old espn interview ffs.
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Old 01-20-2013, 02:35 AM   #2743
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It seems like Te'o right now, for the most part, has wriggled off the hook.

It seems he was not complicit, but guilty of making up portions (i.e face to face meetings) to make the online affair thing seem like a more legit relationship.

Sounds like 95% of the story is legit dupe, with 5% embellishment.

My question is this: what more could come out to really hurt Te'o? Is there anything?
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Old 01-20-2013, 03:05 AM   #2744
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I'm guessing there's at least 50% chance some of the phone conversations were taped. If so, they will come out sooner or later I'd have to think.
I'm still banking on the theory that there were no phone conversations at all and he's still making all of this up.
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Old 01-20-2013, 03:08 AM   #2745
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What do Manti Te'o and WVUskinsfan have in common?

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Old 01-20-2013, 03:13 AM   #2746
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I now feel like you have to consider the possibility that he's just an abject sociopath knowingly telling the most ****ing crazy lies possible and soaking in the attention.

A few pages back somebody mentioned that people get caught by Nigerian scammers- those people are not in their 20s and didn't grow up on the internet. They have the excuse of ignorance, Te'o doesn't.

For Oski's post- UW has a huge Hawaiian/Pacific Islander population. I partied with them a lot when I was in school (and with some Tuiasosopos), and I'd say they were super welcoming (especially to the weird fat white kid) more than insular or anything. If you're looking for a cultural reason to explain his naivete, I'd go religion before race.
I'm going to quote this next time you apologize for Mike Leach.
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Old 01-20-2013, 03:18 AM   #2747
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What do Manti Te'o and WVUskinsfan have in common?

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Old 01-20-2013, 03:19 AM   #2748
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JEREMY SCHAAP: Did it ever occur to you that somebody else would bring the story out?

MANTI TE'O: No. Because from my point of view what they told me they were trying to hide and be incognito because these guys were looking for them. She always told me after, like, she would say, "I've got a job to do. I have to do a job, a drug job." She would always say, "I'll tell you the truth on 16th. I'll tell you the truth on the 16th. You'll know everything on the 16th."

JEREMY SCHAAP: Jan. 16th?

MANTI TE'O: Yep.

JEREMY SCHAAP: When is the last time you spoke to any of these people?

MANTI TE'O: On 16th.


JEREMY SCHAAP: Of?

MANTI TE'O: January.

JEREMY SCHAAP: Two days ago? After the story came out or before?

MANTI TE'O: Before the story came out.

JEREMY SCHAAP: That day?

MANTI TE'O: Uh-huh.
He talked to this scamming conglomerate the SAME DAY as the Deadspin story came out?!?? W.T.F.!!!!

"She would always say, "I'll tell you the truth on 16th. I'll tell you the truth on the 16th. You'll know everything on the 16th."

I am addicted to this story like heroin. I cannot get enough.
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Old 01-20-2013, 03:38 AM   #2749
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I now feel like you have to consider the possibility that he's just an abject sociopath knowingly telling the most ****ing crazy lies possible and soaking in the attention.

A few pages back somebody mentioned that people get caught by Nigerian scammers- those people are not in their 20s and didn't grow up on the internet. They have the excuse of ignorance, Te'o doesn't.

For Oski's post- UW has a huge Hawaiian/Pacific Islander population. I partied with them a lot when I was in school (and with some Tuiasosopos), and I'd say they were super welcoming (especially to the weird fat white kid) more than insular or anything. If you're looking for a cultural reason to explain his naivete, I'd go religion before race.
Well, like I said, small sample size ... and I don't have much experience with either group, to be honest.
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Old 01-20-2013, 03:44 AM   #2750
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That part about "I'll tell you on the 16th" seems fishy.

If this was part of the story, why did ND say they were expecting Manti to disclose everything on "Monday" (the 14th.

It seems they would have just told him, "okay, once you get this wrapped up on the 16th, you can reveal the hoax" (or whatever).
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