Yeah, I want to see analysis of this. Belichick did it at least once. It's clearly very dependent upon how effective you think your defense will be, but I'm not yet writing it off as ridiculous.

It's awful unless the wind is howling in one direction and nobody can score against it. The 10 minute OT period means often you only get one possession if you kick off in OT.

http://www.quirkyresearch.com/footba...-toss-kicking/

The list of coaches who have kicked off since the rule change is quite a polarized list. Belichick has done it twice; Tomlin, Hue Jackson and Mike Zimmer once each.

This isn’t bad

Tomlin thing is awful

Definitely living up to the MIKE name.

not going for two was bad

the halfback pass needing two inches was worse

neither are in the stratosphere of throwing a 50 yard bomb to the end zone when a mere first down literally wins the game

yet again they've just thrown away their two games against halfway decent teams and let the weak teams stay close in games they had no business to be in

down 28-3 freddie kitchens has odell beckham returning a punt

Dave ****ing Roberts

If it’s windy

You take the wind

Learned that watching my team.

Fat will just tried a 58 yard FG. Outside. 4 and 3 on the 41

Lol

Awesome

Totally braindead by Fat Will

And then he gets an INT in overtime and goes run run run to set up for the FG from a college kicker in OT on the road

Shockingly. He misses.

And still manages to win because the opposing coach is just as brain dead.

Bump for that TO by Jason Garrett.

Solid first post

I realize that the equity isn't huge but kicking a fg on 4th and 14 from the 25 or whatever with 14 left in the 4th down 24 - 0 is a bit suspect.

Clearly you aren’t considering the “equity” in momentum and lifting spirits. The game is played on the field, nerd.

Think Dougie deserves some hate for his fake FG on 4th and 4 from MIN24 with :20 left and no TOs

- A non-TD conversion in bounds likely ends the half since you’re FG unit is on the field.
- A non-TD conversion out of bounds gets you 1, maybe 2, more endzone shots before you potentially end up kicking a FG anyway depending on distance from endzone
- This whole decision relies on Jake Elliott’s arm.

I think FG vs go for it is close considering distance from endzone, time left and no TOs.

Leaving the offense out >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fake FG tho

SNF was a clinic on bad coaching:

- LAC punting on 4th and 2 from their own 38 on their first drive of the second half, down 24-0, 6:50 left in the 3rd. To make this even worse, Pitt just had a 7 min drive to start the half.
- LAC onside kick with 1:28 left and 3 timeouts, down 7. Think the kicking team is close to 0% on successful onside kicks when the opposition knows it’s coming since the latest rule changes. IMO, the onside kick is a “don’t break out, unless there’s no other way to get the ball back” option now. Especially considering how conservative Tomlin was coaching, kick it deep and get that extra 30 yards in field position if you hold on d, especially considering there will only be ~1 min left and no timeouts.
- I think Pitt punting on 4th and 1 from LAC’s 36 with 1:11 left deserves to be here as well. Obviously it worked out really well for Pitt since they pinned the chargers on the 1, but that could’ve just as easily turned into a touchback.

it's also bad because any competent coach knows that doug isn't a moron (most of the time) so the fake FG is almost certainly BS

Very curious about onside numbers. 6% or so compared to kicking deep getting 3 and out then % chance of scoring with no timeouts from average punt field position. Compared to the 94% of the time you need to have them go 3 and out then average punt from midfield.

Honestly the silly pooch kick onside might be the best option with no actual good option.

Onside ruled needs changed

Don't forget the doinked fg down 24

Andy Reid ran a QB sneak with the NFL MVP on a bad ankle.

BOB


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