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09-06-2019 , 10:45 PM

#101

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OMG I really hope he didn’t tell Gruden that conversation was being recorded.

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09-07-2019 , 12:26 AM

#102

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AB is the true definition of a Gruden's Grinder.

I can't wait for Monday night!

ESPN prolly gonna break viewership records.

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09-13-2020 , 03:07 PM

#103

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dah raiduhhhzzz really seem to do something to a man

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09-23-2020 , 12:17 PM

#104

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Bump

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09-23-2020 , 07:07 PM

#105

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Originally Posted by Victor

Bump

Josh Jacobs is the epitome of a Gruden’s Grinder!

Let’s go Las Vegas!

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10-11-2020 , 04:37 PM

#106

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boom

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10-11-2021 , 12:37 AM

#107

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https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/jon...233342584.html

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the Wall Street Journal reported that Gruden wrote of [nflpa exec director] DeMaurice Smith:

"Dumboriss Smith has lips the size of michellin [sic] tires.”

Gruden told the WSJ that he was angry at the time he wrote the email because of the NFL lockout, and because of the direction players were taking under Smith's guidance in negotiations with league owners.
(Perhaps Gruden is unclear on what a lockout actually is, so let's help: The owners locked the players out, Jon. The players didn't strike, they were locked out. Team owners kept them away.)

Gruden told the WSJ and The Athletic that he was upset because of the labor unrest, but why? He wasn't a coach at the time, hadn't coached in three years.

Gruden is going with the story that he says people have "rubber lips" when he suspects they're lying, which is a new term to these eyes

ah yes, that classic saying "ol' rubber lips is up to his dastardly tricks once again! (lying)"

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10-11-2021 , 08:23 AM

#108

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Wow Randy Moss almost crying about this.

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10-11-2021 , 08:30 AM

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See, I don’t think he understands what he did in that email,” Bruschi said on Sunday NFL Countdown. “When you insult a Black man’s intelligence by demeaning his appearance, that is racist. That is the only way I know it. That is the only way I was raised. That is racist.”

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one Black player hugged Gruden and told the coach that he has his support. Moss said such a response is absolutely wrong.

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“You heard Adam Schefter talking about the one Black player, well, you don’t want to say his name, because he’s totally wrong in this in not understanding the magnitude of something like this,” Moss said. “We’re going into the 21st century, OK? And instead of us moving forward, we’re moving backwards.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/boston....-racist/%3famp

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10-11-2021 , 09:10 AM

#110

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Pretty sure this email was leaked by Raiders fans that just want a new HC who doesn't think you need to stablish the run.

And oh, Randy. Talking about something that happened 10 years ago is you moving backwards and not forward. What's next? Are you going to find a quote from Vince Lombardi from 1965 and cry about that?

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10-11-2021 , 06:21 PM

#111

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Originally Posted by esad

Probably not, because Lombardi was ardently anti-racist, would never say what Gruden said, and in that sense the direction beteeen those two men is backwards

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10-11-2021 , 08:11 PM

#112

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The New York Times @nytimes

Breaking News: The NFL coach Jon Gruden used misogynistic and homophobic language for years, a review of his emails shows. He denounced the emergence of women referees, the drafting of a gay player and the tolerance of protests during the national anthem.

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Gruden’s messages were sent to Bruce Allen, the former president of the Washington Football Team, and others, while he was working for ESPN as a color analyst during “Monday Night Football,” the sports network’s weekly prime-time telecast of N.F.L. games. In the emails, Gruden called the league’s commissioner, Roger Goodell, a “******” and a “clueless anti football pussy” and said that Goodell should not have pressured Jeff Fisher, then the coach of the Rams, to draft “queers,” a reference to Michael Sam, a gay player chosen by the team in 2014.

In numerous emails during a seven-year period ending in early 2018, Gruden criticized Goodell and the league for trying to reduce concussions and said that Eric Reid, a player who had demonstrated during the playing of the national anthem, should be fired. In several instances, Gruden used a homophobic slur to refer to Goodell and offensive language to describe some N.F.L. owners, coaches and journalists who cover the league.

Gruden said in that interview that had used an expletive to refer to Goodell and that he did so because he disapproved of Goodell’s emphasis on safety, which he believed was scaring parents into steering their sons away from football. But Gruden’s behavior was not limited to 2011. Gruden exchanged emails with Allen and other men that included photos of women wearing only bikini bottoms, including one photo of two Washington team cheerleaders.

Gruden also criticized President Obama during his re-election campaign in 2012, as well as then-vice president Joe Biden, whom Gruden called a “nervous clueless pussy.” He used similar words to describe Goodell and DeMaurice Smith, the executive director of the N.F.L. Players Association.

Some of the emails between Gruden and Allen also included businessmen friends, Ed Droste, the co-founder of Hooters; Jim McVay, an executive who has run the Outback Bowl, annually held in Tampa, Fla.; and Nick Reader, the founder of PDQ Restaurants, a Tampa-based fried chicken franchise. The exchanges begin as early as 2010 while Gruden was an analyst for “Monday Night Football.”

Privately, Allen and Gruden appeared to have few boundaries in expressing homophobic and transphobic language. In one email from 2015 that includes Droste, McVay and others, Gruden crudely asked Allen to tell Bryan Glazer, whose family owns the Tampa Bay Buccaneers where Gruden coached until 2008, to perform oral sex on him. Allen said Glazer would “take you up on that offer.”

Allen and Gruden also mocked Caitlyn Jenner, who received an award from ESPN in 2015 after she transitioned.

In an email from 2015, Allen and Gruden criticized a congressional bill that aimed to force the Washington franchise to change its name, which some Native Americans and others have denounced as a slur. Again using a vulgar term, Gruden took aim at Goodell and his staff even though the commissioner had initially defended the team’s right to keep the name.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/11/s...ruden-say.html

lol

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10-11-2021 , 08:51 PM

#113

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Just locker room talk.

Queers is a phrase he uses to describe unathletic players.

Who cares what he wrote in a emails 12, 10, 6 years ago. The fact that he used language like that for years with his friends definitely doesn’t mean he talks like that behind closed doors now.

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10-11-2021 , 09:03 PM

#114

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yes it does

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10-11-2021 , 09:06 PM

#115

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He gone.

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10-11-2021 , 09:12 PM

#116

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gjge Jon. don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out of the building.

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10-11-2021 , 09:13 PM

#117

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Spider 2Y Bananaed right out of the league.

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10-11-2021 , 09:14 PM

#118

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So that's why it was called Gruden's Grindr's.

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10-11-2021 , 09:16 PM

#119

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Urb on his way out the door to go get a drink to celebrate getting out of the spotlight.

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10-11-2021 , 09:17 PM

#120

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I mean we used gaybet here 10 years ago.

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10-11-2021 , 09:36 PM

#121

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Well that escalated quickly

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10-11-2021 , 09:37 PM

#122

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Looking at dates this looks like ESPN initiated all this. Per the story the emails go to 2018 which is when the Raiders hired him.

Apparently ESPN is going through all emails to find anything like this. For a story? To punish people? Who knows.

This is hilarious

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Gruden also criticized President Obama during his re-election campaign in 2012, as well as then-vice president Joe Biden, whom Gruden called a “nervous clueless pussy.” He used similar words to describe Goodell and DeMaurice Smith, the executive director of the N.F.L. Players Association.

OMG he criticized Obama!!! He should probably be in jail!!

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