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10-27-2021 , 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by lagtight
I wouldn't say that's the worst analogy I've ever read, but it's for sure on the short list.

As recently as 2016, a Washington Post survey revealed that 80% of those polled who self-identified as Native-American either were not offended by nor were bothered by the nickname Redskins.

Pretty sure far less than 80% of African-American's would be unoffended and/or not bothered by the Tennessee N-word.

Having said that, it's still idiotic (in my opinion) to have a nickname that offends people.
Particularly when said nickname was taken at a time where in another sport you literally had negro leagues
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10-28-2021 , 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by lagtight
I wouldn't say that's the worst analogy I've ever read, but it's for sure on the short list.

As recently as 2016, a Washington Post survey revealed that 80% of those polled who self-identified as Native-American either were not offended by nor were bothered by the nickname Redskins.

Pretty sure far less than 80% of African-American's would be unoffended and/or not bothered by the Tennessee N-word.

Having said that, it's still idiotic (in my opinion) to have a nickname that offends people.
lol self-identified
The Daily Show did a piece on the Redskins at the time and the Native American panel they had pointed out that anyone could have self-identified, and when the Daily Show asked rhetorically who would do that - the white people on another panel said 'oh I'm one eighth Navajo' or some bullshit.

A 2019 study by UC Berkeley (again self-identified) said 49% of Native Americans were offended, and that rose to 67% of those who said they regularly participated in native or tribal culture. Another poll that went to actual pow-wows said "67% of the Native Americans polled agreed with the statement that "Redskins" is racial or racist. The response from non-natives was almost the opposite, with 68% responding that the name is not offensive."

I can go on Wikipedia and pull data too!

But you think the tomahawk chop isn't racist for some reason so not sure why I'm bothering to engage
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10-28-2021 , 01:37 AM
You mean Elizabeth Warren doesn’t count?
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10-28-2021 , 03:59 AM
Probably best not to engage lagtight anymore on this "topic" anymore guys.

New topic: O/U how long until Jon Gruden is back on TV?

AND which network will it be on?
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10-28-2021 , 04:23 AM
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Originally Posted by All-inMcLovin
Probably best not to engage lagtight anymore on this "topic" anymore guys.
+1

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New topic: O/U how long until Jon Gruden is back on TV?
March 2022, when he sues the NFL for leaking private e-mails.

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AND which network will it be on?
CNN, FNC, NBC, CBS ,ABC, ESPN, MSNBC, etc.
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10-28-2021 , 05:00 AM
I meant back on TV in a NFL commentating/analyst role.
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10-28-2021 , 05:14 AM
Fair call.

Honestly in this day and age he doesn't come back to a major network. My guess is he does something around podcasts/youtube
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10-28-2021 , 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by All-inMcLovin
I meant back on TV in a NFL commentating/analyst role.
Probably never, in my opinion.
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10-28-2021 , 07:02 AM
Funny, if this were the 90s, his apology tour would take him to an interview with Oprah and all would be forgiven. Not even sure what an apology tour looks like these days, but if Michael Vick came back, surely Gruden will as well. Although, people are hurt more by words lately than actually killing things, so who knows.
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10-28-2021 , 07:12 AM
Yeah, everyone's just hung up on words, not disgusted by what uttering those words say about Gruden as a person.
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10-28-2021 , 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by royalblue
Yeah, everyone's just hung up on words, not disgusted by what uttering those words say about Gruden as a person.

Kareem Hunt still in the league? Big Ben? DeShaun Watson? Antonio Brown? Xavian Howard?

What do their actions say about them as a person?
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10-28-2021 , 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by EddyB66

What do their actions say about them as a person?
they're more skilled at football than Ray Rice
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10-28-2021 , 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by All-inMcLovin
Probably best not to engage lagtight anymore on this "topic" anymore guys.
I knew they knighted you for a reason!
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10-28-2021 , 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Tuma
they're more skilled at football than Ray Rice
lolcats
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10-28-2021 , 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by EddyB66
Funny, if this were the 90s, his apology tour would take him to an interview with Oprah and all would be forgiven. Not even sure what an apology tour looks like these days, but if Michael Vick came back, surely Gruden will as well. Although, people are hurt more by words lately than actually killing things, so who knows.
Are you a vegetarian?
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10-28-2021 , 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by bazooka87
Fair call.

Honestly in this day and age he doesn't come back to a major network. My guess is he does something around podcasts/youtube
I read where one of the sportsbetting sites (that's expanding into content) could bring him into the fold and he'd be able to recoup a similar income.
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10-28-2021 , 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve00007
You mean Elizabeth Warren doesn’t count?
nope. shes a fraudulent plagiarizer and Reagan Republican. who cares what she says about Native Americans?
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10-28-2021 , 04:58 PM
FULL aids itt, look how they massacred srm's boy...
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10-30-2021 , 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by nutella virus
I knew they knighted you for a reason!
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11-02-2021 , 01:55 PM
Ruggs drove drunk and killed someone

Talent evaluator extrodinare
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11-03-2021 , 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by StoppedRainingMen
Ruggs drove drunk and killed someone

Talent evaluator extrodinare
and killed a dog
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11-06-2021 , 06:55 PM
Ruggs' new nameplate on his jersey:

Ruggs 156
Ruggs 0.16%
Ruggs 15-25
Ruggs 9mm
???
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11-06-2021 , 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom Ames
Ruggs' new nameplate on his jersey:

Ruggs 156
Ruggs 0.16%
Ruggs 15-25
Ruggs 9mm
???
They hate me dog killer
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11-08-2021 , 09:29 PM
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HENDERSON, Nev. -- The Las Vegas Raiders have waived second-year cornerback Damon Arnette, a first-round pick in 2020, after video surfaced this weekend of Arnette making death threats while brandishing firearms.
Jon ****ing Gruden
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11-08-2021 , 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by StoppedRainingMen
Jon ****ing Gruden
C'mon, man! Who doesn't want players that are willing to kill their opponents?
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