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Old 09-25-2007, 02:03 PM   #26
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THIS OK STATE PRESS CONFERENCE IS AWESOME
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It's even better when you read the ******ed article he is referring too.

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It's not the greatest article, and the mother/chicken angle is weak, but it doesn't come CLOSE to warranting that diatribe from Gundy. He not a kid; he's a 21 year-old quarterback at a Division I major conference school. He's had it FAR easier than 99.9% of all people with regards to college life, and like it or not, he IS a professional athlete, (not that that matters.)

Nothing in the article was really all that inflammatory anyways.It's not an exceptionally well written article, but to say a guy has nerves and has problems toughing it out isn't a big deal. I 100% guarantee you that Gundy has said 10x worse to him to his face in practice and games.

I also find it funny that Gundy blows up this article to 100x more coverage than it EVER would have gotten. Way to "protect" your player, Mikey. Also nice how a few days later, you won;t back up your statements and say you don't want to talk about the subject that nobody would be talking about had you not acted like a child.

Gundy is an embarrassment not only to coaches, but adults everywhere.
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Old 09-25-2007, 02:08 PM   #27
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Ron Jaworski is doing an awesome job on MNF, imo. At least, compared to Theismann.
I never really had a huge problem with Theismann( although his tendency toward the hyperbolic annoyed me), but I 100% agree; Jaworski is the man.
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Old 09-25-2007, 02:16 PM   #28
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Jaworski is definitely the man.
He even makes Kornheiser sound better too imo.

I liked Gundy's lashing although it was a bit over-the-top.
But I agree that some of the criticisms of amateur college-athletes is inappropriate and I think what Gundy did may actually make some reporters think about their tone somewhat. No, I'm not kidding.

The link to the article isn't working for me though.

Also, I assume from the name that the reporter is a female and one can't help but wonder if Gundy has some sort of issue not just with reporters making some stuff up but specifically with females doing the same thing.


But this is supposed to be a happy thread so I'll leave it at that.
Gundy is mostly awesome.
Jaworski is 100% awesome.
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Old 09-25-2007, 02:19 PM   #29
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Also, I hadn't seen Kenny Mayne on Sportscenter for awhile but I've been catching him on Sunday nights and he's mostly pretty awesome.

Also, kudos to college football in general. Just loving this season so far for some reason. A few really awesome upsets and other exciting games.

I added it up in another thread and I had 25 different games to choose from on the tube just this past Saturday and I don't have a special package or anything like that.
Wall-to-wall coverage all day long of one game after another after another = awesomeness. It's only Tuesday and i'm already looking forward to this Saturday,
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Old 09-25-2007, 02:29 PM   #30
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I'm 100% in agreement with Daliman. What a ridiculous, unprofessional reaction.
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Old 09-25-2007, 02:38 PM   #31
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He not a kid; he's a 21 year-old quarterback at a Division I major conference school.
19, 20, 21, what's the difference? Most people would agree that the player is a kid. You are in the minority. You want to personally rip someone who gets millions to play sports professionally, I think many think that even that is out of line. College kids? Why not rip the local high school QB too while we're at it, for not doing his math homework?

And I'm sorry, I don't get why his college experience might be "easier" than everyone else means that he has consented to have some columnist rip him to shreds. If you found out that the kid never missed a class and spent every waking hour in the library, would that make you change your mind? Why should it?

Serious question -- at huge programs with tremendous local interest, like Michigan, Ohio St., Wisconsin, etc., do the columnists every write scathing personal attacks on the athletes? I don't know the answer, but something tells me they don't, leading me to believe that most of society understands that there is a line with respect to how college athletes should be treated and criticized.

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I 100% guarantee you that Gundy has said 10x worse to him to his face in practice and games.
Do you seriously not understand the difference between the coach ripping into him at practice and someone printing an article in a newspaper?

I usually think coaches that do this stuff are buffoons, but in this case I'm with the coach.
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Old 09-25-2007, 02:40 PM   #32
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Jaworski is definitely the man.
He even makes Kornheiser sound better too imo.

I liked Gundy's lashing although it was a bit over-the-top.
But I agree that some of the criticisms of amateur college-athletes is inappropriate and I think what Gundy did may actually make some reporters think about their tone somewhat. No, I'm not kidding.

But this is supposed to be a happy thread so I'll leave it at that.
Gundy is mostly awesome.
Jaworski is 100% awesome.
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Old 09-25-2007, 04:32 PM   #33
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Jaworski is definitely the man.
He even makes Kornheiser sound better too imo.

Can they possibly turn up Kornheiser's mike? I always have to rewind to hear what he says, which is almost always something worth hearing.


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Jaworski is 100% awesome.
I generally like Jaws, although I don't think I'm as far up his butt as most. But see if you can follow this reasoning: Larry Johnson doesn't have a right to ***** about the play calling as the reason he can't get any yardage... because he hasn't produced any yardage. um.... So are you saying he can only ***** when he's putting up 150 ypg?

Also I wish Jaws would just talk normal during the game, instead of doing his dramatic commentator voice thing. I think by now he's done that shtick so long he's stuck on it permanently. Must be fun around the house.

(do this with Jaws voice in your head)
"I'd better... see that room cleaned up... or you are grounded... ... ... for a week. I'm Ron Jaworski, and I'm your father."
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Old 09-25-2007, 04:58 PM   #34
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Jaws is pretty much the best analyst out there, so even with his flaws, I'm so glad he's on MNF. Especially considering who he replaced.

Also, it's a real pleasure to watch Tom Brady and Peyton Manning play football (even when they are beating up my Texans).
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Old 09-25-2007, 05:27 PM   #35
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Jaworski is definitely the man.
He even makes Kornheiser sound better too imo.

I liked Gundy's lashing although it was a bit over-the-top.
But I agree that some of the criticisms of amateur college-athletes is inappropriate and I think what Gundy did may actually make some reporters think about their tone somewhat. No, I'm not kidding.

The link to the article isn't working for me though.

Also, I assume from the name that the reporter is a female and one can't help but wonder if Gundy has some sort of issue not just with reporters making some stuff up but specifically with females doing the same thing.


But this is supposed to be a happy thread so I'll leave it at that.
Gundy is mostly awesome.
Jaworski is 100% awesome.
I didn't notice the intended tenor of the thread, therefore, I would like to state that I am very happy I am not elated to Mike Gundy, and he makes me feel very good about myself.

Also, I Kornheiser, although he's not as good on MNF as PTI, where he rules.
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Old 09-25-2007, 05:38 PM   #36
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He not a kid; he's a 21 year-old quarterback at a Division I major conference school.
19, 20, 21, what's the difference? Most people would agree that the player is a kid. You are in the minority. You want to personally rip someone who gets millions to play sports professionally, I think many think that even that is out of line. College kids? Why not rip the local high school QB too while we're at it, for not doing his math homework?

And I'm sorry, I don't get why his college experience might be "easier" than everyone else means that he has consented to have some columnist rip him to shreds. If you found out that the kid never missed a class and spent every waking hour in the library, would that make you change your mind? Why should it?

Serious question -- at huge programs with tremendous local interest, like Michigan, Ohio St., Wisconsin, etc., do the columnists every write scathing personal attacks on the athletes? I don't know the answer, but something tells me they don't, leading me to believe that most of society understands that there is a line with respect to how college athletes should be treated and criticized.

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I 100% guarantee you that Gundy has said 10x worse to him to his face in practice and games.
Do you seriously not understand the difference between the coach ripping into him at practice and someone printing an article in a newspaper?

I usually think coaches that do this stuff are buffoons, but in this case I'm with the coach.
The difference is he IS 21, not 19 or 20, and the only thing he is not allowed to do at that age than any other adult is get the best possible rate on car insurance. He can drink, he can drive, and if he does both at once, he can be arrested, and guess what he gets charged as? AN ADULT! If you think 21 is a kid, I'm guessing you're either not 21 yet, or 21 is SO long ago for you it seems like you were just a kid back then. You wanna call an 18- year old a kid, fine, that's reasonable, but calling a 21 y/o a kid is insulting to him, and to common understanding of adult hood. What is an adult to you, 25? Maybe these "Kids" of 21 shouldn;t be allowed to drink or be old enough by 3 years to join the military, huh?

The columnist didn't "rip him to shreds". And it wasn't close to a "scathing personal attack". She just wanted to find out why the QB that was called the most talented on the team was not starting, when it was insinuated that he would be previously. She found out why, the coach didn't deny it.

As far as what I understand, it seems pretty obvious to me I'm not the one with gaps in understanding. You and the coach are in an exceptionally decided minority.
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Old 09-25-2007, 05:43 PM   #37
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Moss is gonna get a SB and be a 1st ballot HoF'er when he chooses to retire.
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Old 09-25-2007, 06:04 PM   #38
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Moss is gonna get a SB and be a 1st ballot HoF'er when he chooses to retire.
Word. Just wish it was with the Vikings.
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Old 09-25-2007, 06:45 PM   #39
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After the RAH RAH GO GET EM COACH reaction that a lot of meatheads initially had to the Gundy story, I'm glad to see that people are coming around to the fact that he was completely wrong, and also an idiot if he thought he was going to deflect attention from his poor little mamma's boy quarterback.
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Old 09-25-2007, 07:00 PM   #40
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It's hard for me to form a strong opinion on this without knowing this woman's credibility prior to this.

Does she actually have access to inside info w/ a proven track record of being correct? If so the coach is probably an idiot & needs to address internal issues with his staff leaking information.

But the article does read a lot like a tabloid. Half the sentences begin with "Rumor has it", "If you believe the rumblings", "Word on the street"...meh. The Mom/chicken angle I thought was unreal. Don't most normal kids get over the "embarrased to be around your parents" thing shortly after Junior High?

In the end they're probably both idiots.
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Old 09-25-2007, 07:21 PM   #41
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Mike Holmgren is still one of the best offensive playcallers in the game.

And lol @ thinking we shoudl baby student atheletes. I had 10k of debt after college, you got a free ride. I have no qualms about yelling at some kid if he sucks, cost of doing business in the public eye. And if your mom is feeding you chicken like a bird in public, prepared to get clowned for it.
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Old 09-26-2007, 12:17 AM   #42
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It's hard for me to form a strong opinion on this without knowing this woman's credibility prior to this.

Does she actually have access to inside info w/ a proven track record of being correct? If so the coach is probably an idiot & needs to address internal issues with his staff leaking information.

But the article does read a lot like a tabloid. Half the sentences begin with "Rumor has it", "If you believe the rumblings", "Word on the street"...meh. The Mom/chicken angle I thought was unreal. Don't most normal kids get over the "embarrased to be around your parents" thing shortly after Junior High?

In the end they're probably both idiots.
Gundy said the column was 75% inaccurate, but refused to say which parts were false when the reporter asked.

It was a column---columnists speculate, publish rumors, form opinions, etc. The idiot part of the rant is how no one who had a child would ever criticize a child like she did. Gundy actually compared the situation to a kid getting called fat or not picked up on the playground and running home to mommy.

Plus, Gundy brought on the speculation by refusing to answer questions like "who is the starting QB this week, and why did you bench Reid?" If you tell the media to buzz off, they still have a deadline and have to write something.
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Old 09-26-2007, 12:36 AM   #43
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It's hard for me to form a strong opinion on this without knowing this woman's credibility prior to this.

Does she actually have access to inside info w/ a proven track record of being correct? If so the coach is probably an idiot & needs to address internal issues with his staff leaking information.

But the article does read a lot like a tabloid. Half the sentences begin with "Rumor has it", "If you believe the rumblings", "Word on the street"...meh. The Mom/chicken angle I thought was unreal. Don't most normal kids get over the "embarrased to be around your parents" thing shortly after Junior High?

In the end they're probably both idiots.
Gundy said the column was 75% inaccurate, but refused to say which parts were false when the reporter asked.

It was a column---columnists speculate, publish rumors, form opinions, etc. The idiot part of the rant is how no one who had a child would ever criticize a child like she did. Gundy actually compared the situation to a kid getting called fat or not picked up on the playground and running home to mommy.

Plus, Gundy brought on the speculation by refusing to answer questions like "who is the starting QB this week, and why did you bench Reid?" If you tell the media to buzz off, they still have a deadline and have to write something.
Well put. Gundy just threw a tantrum and can't man up about it.
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Old 09-26-2007, 01:18 AM   #44
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Good job Detroit Tigers.

In the middle of Sunday's game, they made an announcement to recognize KC's manager, Buddy Bell, who is stepping down at the end of the season. He used to manage the Tigers. They sucked then. The Royals suck now. However, Bell seems to be a nice guy and obviously comes from a good baseball family. Also, I believe cancer in the family played a role in his decision to resign. Classy guy. Classy move by the Tigers.
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Mike Hart: breathing.
This reminds me: I salute Lloyd Carr for finally doing what I have wanted him to do for 3+ years. That is, make Mike Hart the rich man's version of Chris Perry. In other words, give that guy the ball on first down. Give it to him on second down. Go ahead and give it to him again on third down. I'm exaggerating, but it was nice to see them use the horse this weekend for 40+ carries. It brought back memories of Perry's 51 carry game against MSU in '03. Hart is much better than Perry. Ryan Mallett is a freshman and was making his second career start.

I believe Carr has been overly protective of Hart throughout his career. As a result, Hart has missed out on a lot of potential individual accolades (Heisman hype) because he has shared a lot of carries. While I understand Carr's fear of injury, you have got to ride your horses. They did that Saturday. They beat a top 10 team.

Good job, Lloyd. Please continue.
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Also, I hadn't seen Kenny Mayne on Sportscenter for awhile but I've been catching him on Sunday nights and he's mostly pretty awesome.
Kenny Mayne is without a doubt my favorite Sportscenter anchor of all time. His sense of humor just kills me. Those "Mayne Event" segments he does are priceless. I remember him doing one about Camillo Villegas' putting routine and maybe another one about miniature golf or something. Hilarious stuff.
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I was talking to my mom on the phone during the timeout before the play and told her, "I think they should go for it but pretty much no coaches in college football would go for it here" and Zook did. Great call.

Up 7 with 6:53 to go with the ball 4th and a couple inches on their own 34.
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Old 11-10-2007, 07:55 PM   #48
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After the Mineesota Vikings realized they f'd up they gave Troy Williamson his paycheck back from last week. Williamson mans up and donates the money to charity.
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