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12-18-2012 , 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by nath
They actually don't have very many good players, which is a testament to the job Rex has done this year

It's basically Cro, Muhammad Wilkerson, D'Brick, and Mangold
Healthy Revis?

There are rumors starting to pop up about Tebow going to the CFL now.
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12-18-2012 , 09:56 PM
Revis hasn't been healthy this year, and he's a question mark now going forward; obviously if he returns to form he's their most valuable piece.
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12-18-2012 , 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve Yzerman fan
Healthy Revis?

There are rumors starting to pop up about Tebow going to the CFL now.
There have been rumors for Tebow to CFL since before he graduated
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12-18-2012 , 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by StoppedRainingMen
ppl keep saying rex ryan deserves another year, i call bull**** on that. the last 8 days are a total display of incompetence that shouldn't warrant another season.

so tebow is an awful qb. we get that. apparently even the jets players think he's dog****. so if mcelroy is the ACTUAL backup qb, why in the **** would you deactivate him in a must-win game? wtf are u keeping up the pretense of tebow being a legitimate nfl player for at the cost of your chances to win? sanchez got worse and worse and worse as the game goes on and despite the fact that it's still winnable and despite the fact that you MUST win it you have nobody you can play because for some reason QB2 is deactivated. smooth
I agree with your premise that regardless of how good Tebow actually is, Rex Ryan's handled the entire situation horribly and deserves to be fired, but I really don't buy all this stuff about Tebow being one of the very worst QBs in the league, and people saying he should go to the CFL. The fact is, for a young guy who hasn't had much opportunity to get reps and learn the game, he really hasn't played that badly. Let's compare him to some of the young starters in the league right now:

Andrew Luck
Age: 23
Career pass attempts: 564
ANY/A+: 95

Ryan Tannehill
Age: 24
Career pass attempts: 424
ANY/A+: 92

Tim Tebow
Age: 25
Career pass attempts: 361
ANY/A+: 92

Sam Bradford
Age: 25
Career pass attempts: 1429
ANY/A+: 89

Brandon Weeden
Age: 29
Career pass attempts: 498
ANY/A+: 89

Christian Ponder
Age: 24
Career pass attempts: 716
ANY/A+: 81

I think the main problem with Tebow is that in order to really use him effectively it takes a little bit of creativity, and a coaching staff that puts most of their focus toward defense wasn't really ever willing to put out that kind of effort. So instead ,they just set him up to fail whenever he gets the chance to play, leak stories to the media about him being terrible in practice, and hope they never have to deal with actually thinking outside the box the way John Fox did in Denver. The reason McElroy is starting isn't that "he was the real QB2 all along". It's that they don't want to deal with Tebow succeeding in the last 2 games and people freaking out on them, asking why hasn't he been playing this whole time.
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12-18-2012 , 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by StoppedRainingMen
ppl keep saying rex ryan deserves another year, i call bull**** on that. the last 8 days are a total display of incompetence that shouldn't warrant another season.

so tebow is an awful qb. we get that. apparently even the jets players think he's dog****. so if mcelroy is the ACTUAL backup qb, why in the **** would you deactivate him in a must-win game? wtf are u keeping up the pretense of tebow being a legitimate nfl player for at the cost of your chances to win? sanchez got worse and worse and worse as the game goes on and despite the fact that it's still winnable and despite the fact that you MUST win it you have nobody you can play because for some reason QB2 is deactivated. smooth
Ryan did not give Sanchez that contract extension. There is no reason that cutting him in this 5th year should be a cap hit upwards of 8M
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12-18-2012 , 10:42 PM
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It's that they don't want to deal with Tebow succeeding in the last 2 games and people freaking out on them, asking why hasn't he been playing this whole time.
Yeah, this.

It almost makes you ask the question, why the **** did they trade for Tebow in the first place?

But then again, this is the NY Jets who love **** storms and back page bull**** stories.
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12-18-2012 , 10:50 PM
i remember when rex ryan said to brandon jacobs, "Wait til we win the Super Bowl" late last year.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

how'd that work out for you rex?

what an embarrassment of an organization. i mean being a mets/jets fan has to be the worst. the yankee/giants fans are celebrating 3 world titles in the last 5 years and have been constantly contending. the mets/jets have been the laughingstock of the country. how does a fan keep rooting for teams like that? props to the ones who have stayed loyal.
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12-18-2012 , 10:57 PM
Been a Mets and Jets fan akk my life trust me its hard work I was shaking last night I was ledgit mad at Rex for not taking nacho out I do feel like the Jets are trolling us fans
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12-18-2012 , 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by dth123451
In all seriousness there is absolutely no rational explanation that I can come up with for why they guaranteed his money for 2013.
Was the deal after they acquired TEBOW? If so I'm guessing the rationale was "Mark is a confident guy with a smile and a jaw and he needs to know he's the Big Man On Campus (yes he still uses that term in the NFL). TEBOW here has caused quite the media stir and he's also got a jaw and smiles a lot and exudes confidence. We don't want Mark to get butthurt and have his confidence broken by this new kid on the block. I'd hate for that to happen and his career end by running face first into the ass of another man. If we throw a bunch of money at him, he'll KNOW he's the guy and his confidence will soar and the JETS will win the Superb Owl!"

If it was before the TEBOW deal then scratch all this.

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Originally Posted by iggymcfly
he really hasn't played that badly. Let's compare him to some of the young starters in the league right now:

Andrew Luck
Age: 23
Career pass attempts: 564
ANY/A+: 95

Ryan Tannehill
Age: 24
Career pass attempts: 424
ANY/A+: 92

Tim Tebow
Age: 25
Career pass attempts: 361
ANY/A+: 92

Sam Bradford
Age: 25
Career pass attempts: 1429
ANY/A+: 89

Brandon Weeden
Age: 29
Career pass attempts: 498
ANY/A+: 89

Christian Ponder
Age: 24
Career pass attempts: 716
ANY/A+: 81
Some of these guys are either really awful at being a quarterback, or they project to be way better than TEBOW. In either case this list is pretty meaningless.
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12-18-2012 , 11:53 PM
If I recall correctly, the deal with Sanchez was after the whole Manning saga and was more or less a way to say "Sorry we were so interested in Peyton, you're our guy".
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12-18-2012 , 11:56 PM
Yeah, see if it was either of those 2 things then that is straight up LOL Jets.

I don't understand the concept of throwing money at someone to diffuse their own lack of confidence. If they aren't confident it's probably because they suck. And money won't change that.

Like if Sanchize comes into my office and expresses concern that he's "not the guy" because we signed TEBOW or pursued Manning then I'm basically like "Play good enough to be 'the guy' and you've got nothing to worry about. Is there anything else I can help you with?"

Of course I'm really bad at dealing with people so that's probably the wrong way to do it.
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12-19-2012 , 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by SMIGLET
Ryan did not give Sanchez that contract extension. There is no reason that cutting him in this 5th year should be a cap hit upwards of 8M
that's not my point. rex is starting a qb who was deactivated for a must win game. that's inexcusable. even if starting him is entirely about wanting to see if there's something in mcelory it's irrelevant, if you have such little faith in tebow that you're willing to let sanchez **** away your season like that, there's no excuse for having mcelory deactivated
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12-19-2012 , 12:03 AM
[x] would watch CFL if they signed tebow
[x] would watch cricket if they signed tebow
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12-19-2012 , 12:22 AM
Last night Sanchez wasnt complete aids at the start but Rex put Tebow in for a drive. After this Sanchez was complete aids yet Rex refused to take him out. He kinda got it the wrong way around.
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12-19-2012 , 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by John Wayne
[x] would watch CFL if they signed tebow
[x] would watch cricket if they signed tebow
I don't know how well Tebow would do in the CFL. Vick would be GOAT. I can't speak to cricket.
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12-19-2012 , 12:39 AM
iggy why would you even put andrew luck and tebow in the same conversation when making a comparison for their success going forward? You're such a troll. Tebow throws 10 yard out routes at his recievers feet. He ****ing sucks, nothing can change that.
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12-19-2012 , 12:41 AM
i'm gonna watch some Florida youtube highlights to remind myself what all the fuss was about
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12-19-2012 , 12:45 AM
If Tebow's job were still running over DBs who are going pro in something other than sports, he'd be a fine QB.
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12-19-2012 , 12:49 AM
tebow has the worst skillset for cfl
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12-19-2012 , 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by nath
They actually don't have very many good players, which is a testament to the job Rex has done this year

It's basically Cro, Muhammad Wilkerson, D'Brick, and Mangold
The Jets haven't really been the super team stacked with talent in any extraordinary way in any of these years. It's a couple of great players, a couple of really good players and bunch of trash who can't do much of anything. This year: no pass rush, bad tackling, no WR with a size/speed/hands formula, and no QB.

They cover downfield and block well; that's about it. This is almost always due to coaching where it exists, so I can buy this. That said, how every pass play was three downfield -- two streaking, one posting -- all game, knowing the QB can't get the ball there, is something of an acceptable gameplan is beyond me.

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Originally Posted by John Wayne
[x] would watch CFL if they signed tebow
[x] would watch cricket if they signed tebow
I thought QBs can't pass the LOS in the CFL.
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12-19-2012 , 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by horrorshow83

I thought QBs can't pass the LOS in the CFL.

It's the same as NFL. They can run when they want, but obviously can't throw once they cross the line.
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12-19-2012 , 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by grando1.0
tebow has the worst skillset for cfl
He'd be unstoppable on third and short tho with the huge neutral zone
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12-19-2012 , 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Dudd
He'd be unstoppable on third and short tho with the huge neutral zone
true, but he's never getting to third and short throwing like michael j fox with his opposite hand
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12-19-2012 , 02:08 AM
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Originally Posted by grando1.0
true, but he's never getting to third and short throwing like michael j fox with his opposite hand
He would be a GOAT fullback though.
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12-19-2012 , 02:12 AM
do fullbacks even exist in cfl?
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