Pretty sure he means ideologically segregated. Like in terms of where we get our news and entertainment...

Baseball was ruined 15 years ago when people realized that taking walks was really helpful to winning. Baseball is best as an interaction between the hitter and fielders. Originally they threw underhand to just get the damn ball in play. Watching people work out walks or strike out is really, really boring.

Not that it was ever great, but RZ ruined going to live games for me too. Of course the prices and crowds didnt help, but why pay to watch one slow game live when I can have 12 games blended up and pumped into my veins?

Baseball's early age pay system is referred to as "Indentured Servatude" sometimes for the low pay during the minors and how long it takes non-stars to be Arb-elig. It's such a goofy system.

I know my interest in sports went way down as I've gone from my 20s into my 30s. It's not even as a result of being busier, I've just noticed I enjoy sports as entertainment less.

I mean, I'm sure there are laws that could be challenged about the legality of the rule and how the NCAA and/or NBA are violating antitrust laws. The issue is "qualified" players are being locked out of an industry for a period of time with no alternatives. And I doubt overseas opportunities would have any impact on the legality of it.

In any other industry discrimination on age is illegal. Of course, there are de facto age restrictions, such as having a college degree, but someone extremely young and talented won't be turned away if they are of legal working age (say a person with a college degree at 18). The NBA has gone before congress to defend it's age discrimination, and it really can only fly for now probably because of how the employment is structured with contracts and lack of interest in continued court cases because of only a 1 year restriction.

Actually, here's a fairly old document of what I'm talking about.

https://scholarlycommons.law.case.ed...ntext=caselrev

Or maybe they just suck. If the rule had existed when LeBron was coming out of HS, you think he would go overseas and just suck? Most of the players that go overseas are generally not that good. The elite ones know they can just go to college for a year, get exposure, and slay the competition. Like I said, if the rule was longer, I'm sure more players would go overseas, especially the top tier ones.

Spot on. It's awesome on Sunday afternoon but I can't even watch Sunday and Monday night football anymore. It feels like I'm watching commercials with a few plays in between.

Both of these guys were lottery picks, though. IIRC Mudiay went like 6-7th his draft class. I don't know how much more his draft stock would be boosted by being shown on ESPN NCAAB coverage had he stayed--certainly not enough to overtake KAT and Jahlil Okafor and whoever else went 1-5 (I know Jah sucks now and it's a huge band-aid to rip off as a Philadelphia native, but he was amazing at Duke).

I think Mudiay overachieved by going to China and getting a year of pay and one year worth of experience and treatment like a god by the Chinese fans.

That being said, one-and-done definitely polarizes mens CBB: you are in the haves (the schools prestigious enough to pull this talent, albeit for one year) or the have-nots (those who have to rely on coaching/cohesion/development to produce wins over the more talented teams). This polarity makes for great watching during the conference tourneys, but the first 2/3 of the season is a dragggg.

Watching these guys isn't boring. imo.

When I thought Fatolo couldn't get any fatter...

Nobody gives a **** about curling and reading your post is the first time i found out about the US winning in 2018 which i will forget about by next week.

I get that sometimes since these guys are so well paid they lose motivation or whatever but i want to watch the best athletes in the world compete (in actual sports not curling.) There being so much money involved means the scouting training etc will be much better and as a result the end product is way better.A great pitcher making 30 million a year doesn't take away the entertainment for me of watching him pitch.

lol u

Zimmer is so close. He just needs to look one layer deeper. The real problem is that the traditional sports leagues are not competitive markets; they are cartels. If, for example, the NFL allowed anyone or any organization to purchase a team for sale, then Google or whoever would wipe the floor with pretenders like the Patriots. But the NFL would rather be a cartel/hobby for the current owners than a pure competition. Of course, the NFL won't admit that its championships are completely phony; they just want you to shut up and buy some beer and constipation medicines and whatever other garbage Madison Avenue is pushing.

You guys seen this new sport Fowling? I think it should be called BowlBall though.

Is that a sport invented by Chris Fowler?

I'm no archeologist but I'm pretty sure dramatic storytelling goes back further than organized sports. Not that it makes ILP's analogy any better.

I call it "The Good Old Boys Club" . Not the kind that'll make you eat corn on the cob with "no ****in teeth" though.

All the Soup Opera hate in this forum is seriously bothering me. Right now on "The Bold and the Beautiful" Hope passed out while in labor and had a stillborn, but the thing is it really wasn't stillborn. It was a healthy baby, but the doctor switched it out for a dead baby. Another woman just happened to have a stillborn and the doctor (Wayne Brady) was working all alone. A bad storm prevented other staff and Hope's husband Liam and other family from arriving at the clinic. Wayne Brady made this macabre switch cuz he was deep in debt due to being a compulsive gambler and muscly Italian looking guys were threatening his daughter's life if he didn't pay up ($200,000 in debt). Ok, so after the swap, and Hope and Liam being devastated from having a dead baby, Wayne Brady gets a woman friend to pretend to be the mother of the real baby and puts the baby up for adoption expediting the sale to rich people willing to pay anything for another daughter. Well that rich person ended up being Liam's ex-wife Steffy Forrester who Liam already has a baby with!! God I can't wait for the next episode!!!

You all may be wondering how someone as brilliant and sophisticated as me can possibly watch this stuff, and the answer is both simple and profound. I learned a long time ago that the key to making any relationship work is to watch whatever the **** she wants.

Combines bowling and football lol. It's like cornhole but with a football and 10 pins. Huck it, chuck it, fowling! Sports are alive and well

Come on man, put that stuff in spoilers. You should know better.

I lold. ILP GOAT

I know a university student who is really a professional video game player. Unfortunately, this **** is the future of professional sports.

As someone who likes video games and watched League of Legends for a few years, I'm incredibly down on the future of eSports.

I think the crucial problem for eSports is that games turn over so quickly. While rule changes and styles have impacted how our major sports look over time, for the most part the games themselves have remained the same.

Ten Years ago, Starcraft was about the only serious eSport. Then League of Legends got huge and has started to decline. Then CS:GO and Rocket League saw a surge in popularity... Then Overwatch came in... Now Battle Royale games are trying to make their mark.

I think it's tough to find a game with enough staying power that people will want to play it over long periods of time, long enough for it to get a sports type of following.

Dude people were playing Starcraft forever. I played that game as a teenager, grew up and then taught students who were STILL playing Starcraft.

I also don't think eSports are going to be a big scale thing. No one has any personality - I love RL but could not tell you one player (except Rizzo) who even plays. Who am I supposed to cheer for? Random mousey white kid 1-69 or the Asian kid?

I think interest is going to continue to decline. 90s, early 00's was the peak of the commercialization of sports, then you had the DVR era where sports was the only thing that could really sell commercials still because it was live content.

However, I'm really not sure how much this is going to hurt the bottom lines of the owners/players/networks. US population grows on average 1.5-2m a year and they have regional monopolies. Not to mention more people are living closer to urban areas nowadays where the teams are.

The end result of fragmented interest is probably just 2-3% growth in franchise values as opposed to 5-6%. And if they can scale interest globally (something the NBA is doing well) then that is going to be huge as well.

eSports are the nut low.