Final NFL Rankings and Discussion thread
12-31-2012
, 08:34 PM
12-31-2012
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12-31-2012
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12-31-2012
, 09:09 PM
12-31-2012
, 09:17 PM
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Well the Pro Bowl is at least 40% popularity driven. Its the same reason Jeff Saturday made it and he was benched this year.
I would take William Moore and Thomas DeCoud over the NFC PB safeties any day of the week.
Yes, titles are won in the trenches. Yes, SF is an 'in the trenches' kind of team, but they aren't the be all end all of football teams. They were shown up by Russell Wilson, who, while decent, is nowhere near an elite level QB mechanically or statistically.
The SF offense will have a LOT of trouble against any defensive coordinators who excel at scheming/adjusting to teams (like Mike Nolan). They are one-dimensional essentially, and every time the Falcons have sold out to stop the run on a team, they have won.
I would take William Moore and Thomas DeCoud over the NFC PB safeties any day of the week.
Yes, titles are won in the trenches. Yes, SF is an 'in the trenches' kind of team, but they aren't the be all end all of football teams. They were shown up by Russell Wilson, who, while decent, is nowhere near an elite level QB mechanically or statistically.
The SF offense will have a LOT of trouble against any defensive coordinators who excel at scheming/adjusting to teams (like Mike Nolan). They are one-dimensional essentially, and every time the Falcons have sold out to stop the run on a team, they have won.
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Look at their allowed scoring numbers.
The last game was obviously not played at full tempo/full playbook.
They crushed NYG in that span of 4 games you're referring to.
Matt Ryan has put up career numbers this season. Atlanta is near the top of the league in turnover differential.
Their defensive yardage numbers have been better than the Packers who won the SB. 24th isn't that bad when you compare it to 32nd. Yardage totals wont keep a team from winning games. Points do, and the Falcons are excellent at stopping drives and limiting opposing offenses to field goals.
Theyre also the least penalized team in the league, and for the most part play clean and mistake free.
The last game was obviously not played at full tempo/full playbook.
They crushed NYG in that span of 4 games you're referring to.
Matt Ryan has put up career numbers this season. Atlanta is near the top of the league in turnover differential.
Their defensive yardage numbers have been better than the Packers who won the SB. 24th isn't that bad when you compare it to 32nd. Yardage totals wont keep a team from winning games. Points do, and the Falcons are excellent at stopping drives and limiting opposing offenses to field goals.
Theyre also the least penalized team in the league, and for the most part play clean and mistake free.
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Then what about SF and Den?
They have played a lot of weak teams and SF has even been beaten by them. Den was beaten by 3 of the top tier teams now... So does that suggest that Denver is better than the bad teams but not as good as the elite ones? What elite teams has Den beaten this season? Why are they being tauted as the best show on turf when they have obvious shortcomings and have already been beaten by multiple proven playoff contenders?
They have played a lot of weak teams and SF has even been beaten by them. Den was beaten by 3 of the top tier teams now... So does that suggest that Denver is better than the bad teams but not as good as the elite ones? What elite teams has Den beaten this season? Why are they being tauted as the best show on turf when they have obvious shortcomings and have already been beaten by multiple proven playoff contenders?
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Strictly based statistically, the 49ers are just about as middle of the back as it gets, and if it weren't for their run game, their offense would be borderline anemic. That makes them no better offensively than Minnesota, and I would argue that MIN's running offense is better than SFs anyway. Yes, I know they changed to Kaep midseason, but even his influence hasn't contributed to the passing game all THAT much.
The 49ers have some elite playmakers on defense, but their defense suffers greatly when any of those players are hampered. The 49ers are facing a brutal path to the SB, and their defense is going to have to go all out to win, because Kaep simply won't win a shootout with ARod and the like.
My NFC rankings are like this:
ATL
GB
SEA
SF
WAS
MIN
My AFC rankings are:
NE
DEN
HOU
IND
BAL
CIN
Overall
ATL
NE
DEN
GB
SEA
SF
HOU
IND
BAL
WAS
CIN
MIN
The 49ers have some elite playmakers on defense, but their defense suffers greatly when any of those players are hampered. The 49ers are facing a brutal path to the SB, and their defense is going to have to go all out to win, because Kaep simply won't win a shootout with ARod and the like.
My NFC rankings are like this:
ATL
GB
SEA
SF
WAS
MIN
My AFC rankings are:
NE
DEN
HOU
IND
BAL
CIN
Overall
ATL
NE
DEN
GB
SEA
SF
HOU
IND
BAL
WAS
CIN
MIN
12-31-2012
, 09:24 PM
12 points for 1st, 1 point for 12th
1. Denver Broncos (17), AFC #1, 275 points
2. New England Patriots (4), AFC #2, 259 points
3. San Francisco 49ers, (1), NFC #2, 238 points
4. Green Bay Packers, NFC #3, 209 points
5. Seattle Seahawks (1), NFC #5, 195 points
6. Atlanta Falcons (1), NFC #1, 182 points
7. Houston Texans, AFC #3, 135 points
8. Washington Redskins, NFC #4, 108 points
9. Baltimore Ravens, AFC #4, 93 points
10. Cincinnati Bengals, AFC #6, 67 points
11. Minnesota Vikings, NFC #6, 61 points
12. Indianapolis Colts, AFC #5, 50 points
distribution:
MVP:
3 points for 1st, 1 point for 3rd
t1. Adrian Peterson (13), 52 points
t1. Peyton Manning (7), 52 points
3. Aaron Rodgers (1), 11 points
4. Tom Brady, 8 points
t5. Robert Griffin III (2), 7 points
t5. J.J. Watt, 7 points
distribution:
1. Denver Broncos (17), AFC #1, 275 points
2. New England Patriots (4), AFC #2, 259 points
3. San Francisco 49ers, (1), NFC #2, 238 points
4. Green Bay Packers, NFC #3, 209 points
5. Seattle Seahawks (1), NFC #5, 195 points
6. Atlanta Falcons (1), NFC #1, 182 points
7. Houston Texans, AFC #3, 135 points
8. Washington Redskins, NFC #4, 108 points
9. Baltimore Ravens, AFC #4, 93 points
10. Cincinnati Bengals, AFC #6, 67 points
11. Minnesota Vikings, NFC #6, 61 points
12. Indianapolis Colts, AFC #5, 50 points
distribution:
MVP:
3 points for 1st, 1 point for 3rd
t1. Adrian Peterson (13), 52 points
t1. Peyton Manning (7), 52 points
3. Aaron Rodgers (1), 11 points
4. Tom Brady, 8 points
t5. Robert Griffin III (2), 7 points
t5. J.J. Watt, 7 points
distribution:
