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12-02-2010 , 01:10 AM
wtf ray, hes saying that europe is the biggest continent in the world for football, so they get the WC every other 'term', which seems logical. IF you think countries like england/germany/italy/france should get it just as frequently as Latin America/Nothern America/Asia, i dunno what to say.
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12-02-2010 , 01:13 AM
They should get it most often but every other WC is too often considering the size of the other federations and footballs global appeal. Every third WC seems more fair. If europe got it every other time, USA every 4th imagine how long the rest of the world would have to wait to host it would be insane. Mexico are also fit to host it remember and play in the same continent as USA.
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12-02-2010 , 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Ra_Z_Boy
Mexico are also fit to host it remember and play in the same continent as USA.
As someone who does a fair amount of keeping up with Mexican politics I feel confident when I say no. No they aren't. A love of the game, sure. A massive lack of political stability wrt security? you betcha.
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12-02-2010 , 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Ra_Z_Boy
You have the habit, like so many others, of thinking Europe is one big country like USA. Its not. Your idea is unfair and unrealistic. You have Europe and the USA both having it too often (USA absurdly so).
my fast dirty little proposal is exactly how it has rotated to europe since 1938. europe has never gone 2 cycles without a world cup in the history of the world cup.

and yes, i know that euroland is not the same country, hence why i think it should get the cup at least 4x as often as any other continent.
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12-02-2010 , 01:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Victor
my fast dirty little proposal is exactly how it has rotated to europe since 1938. europe has never gone 2 cycles without a world cup in the history of the world cup.

and yes, i know that euroland is not the same country, hence why i think it should get the cup at least 4x as often as any other continent.
Except the next one...
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12-02-2010 , 01:18 AM
aye fair point, had a few stellas this night so am a bit worse for wear.

it should be

euro
americas
euro
africa
euro
rest of the world
euro
americas

rinse and repeat.. imo
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12-02-2010 , 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Ra_Z_Boy
They should get it most often but every other WC is too often considering the size of the other federations and footballs global appeal. Every third WC seems more fair. If europe got it every other time, USA every 4th imagine how long the rest of the world would have to wait to host it would be insane. Mexico are also fit to host it remember and play in the same continent as USA.
EUROPE GETS IT EVERY OTHER TIME. WAKE UP BRO!
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12-02-2010 , 01:19 AM
but we already have the european championships, and u wont find many people that think the WC > euros, so maybe they deserve a few more tournies
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12-02-2010 , 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by ekky
aye fair point, had a few stellas this night so am a bit worse for wear.

it should be

euro
americas
euro
rest of the world
euro
rest of the world
euro
americas etc

rinse and repeat.. imo
imo
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12-02-2010 , 01:22 AM
Current Mexico is not fit to host
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12-02-2010 , 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by loosekanen
As someone who does a fair amount of keeping up with Mexican politics I feel confident when I say no. No they aren't. A love of the game, sure. A massive lack of political stability wrt security? you betcha.
Well they have hosted it twice before. Maybe not again anytime soon though.

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Originally Posted by Victor
my fast dirty little proposal is exactly how it has rotated to europe since 1938. europe has never gone 2 cycles without a world cup in the history of the world cup.

and yes, i know that euroland is not the same country, hence why i think it should get the cup at least 4x as often as any other continent.
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Originally Posted by Victor
EUROPE GETS IT EVERY OTHER TIME. WAKE UP BRO!
Erm, wake up yourself. That WAS the status quo and with the massive increase in viable hosts that has now been changed and Europe will only host every third WC. Sounds about right to me.

Its in Brazil next time just so you know.
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12-02-2010 , 01:25 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOgEwmDzIPM

they should just show this video and say "good luck ever getting 10% of the atmosphere this generated"
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12-02-2010 , 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Ra_Z_Boy




Erm, wake up yourself. That WAS the status quo and with the massive increase in viable hosts that has now been changed and Europe will only host every third WC. Sounds about right to me.

Its in Brazil next time just so you know.
ok so your view is that it is held everywhere too often, except for engerland where its not held enough.
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12-02-2010 , 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by ekky
aye fair point, had a few stellas this night so am a bit worse for wear.

it should be

euro
americas
euro
africa
euro
rest of the world
euro
americas

rinse and repeat.. imo
By Americas do you mean North and South?
Europe
South America/North America/Asia/Africa/Oceania
South America/North America/Asia/Africa/Oceania
Europe
South America/North America/Asia/Africa/Oceania
South America/North America/Asia/Africa/Oceania
Europe
South America/North America/Asia/Africa/Oceania
South America/North America/Asia/Africa/Oceania

Etc.

With it not being hosted on the same continent twice in a row.

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Originally Posted by ekky
but we already have the european championships, and u wont find many people that think the WC > euros, so maybe they deserve a few more tournies
Eh??
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12-02-2010 , 01:30 AM
europe
usa
South America/mexico/Asia/Africa/Oceania
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12-02-2010 , 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Victor
ok so your view is that it is held everywhere too often, except for engerland where its not held enough.
Its actually literally impossible to interpret what I have said this way so nice troll.
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12-02-2010 , 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Victor
europe
usa
South America/mexico/Asia/Africa/Oceania
Poor Canada.
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12-02-2010 , 01:32 AM
nm, this is better

Europe
usa
South America/North America/Asia/Africa/Oceania
Europe
South America/North America/Asia/Africa/Oceania
usa
Europe
South America/North America/Asia/Africa/Oceania
South America/North America/Asia/Africa/Oceania
Europe
usa
South America/North America/Asia/Africa/Oceania
Europe
South America/North America/Asia/Africa/Oceania
usa
Europe
South America/North America/Asia/Africa/Oceania
South America/North America/Asia/Africa/Oceania

and canada can cohost with the states every once in a while.
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12-02-2010 , 01:40 AM
theres no way it should be europe every 12 years

euro
americas
euro
africa
euro
rest of the world
euro
americas

this is how it should be. the world cup is a football competition, not a charity drive, and the only time it should deviate from this is like the NFL/NBA come to england for their games to spread the word and try to make more money. Fifa wont make money taking it to places like australia with any frequency. Give them a bone every 100 years and let the proper countries take it.
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12-02-2010 , 01:42 AM
If Qatar gets the World Cup, it'll be the most lol-worthy decision ever.

It's the size of conneticut. It's 1/4 the size of switzerland, and switzerland is ****ing tiny.

They basically have no cities other than Doha. The country is 1.6 million people, 1 million in Doha. It's basically Doha and desert. Over 90% of Qatari citizens live in Doha, according to wiki.

They have basically no infrastructure. They would have to build basically every single stadium and practice facility. It's a reach to believe they can even get ready in time, not to mention having to handle the crowds. If I recall, FIFA themselves called them 'unsuitable' or something.

The 'travel experience' of the fans would be absurdly awful. Absurdly hot everywhere. Alcohol/Partying restrictions (even if they were loosened, they would still exist). Qatar is not really close to anywhere, not really Europe, not China/Japan, not South America, not North America. There's no wide span of awesome places to see, there's just ****ing Doha.

Also, Qatar explicitly uses Sharia law as the basis for its government.

I can't really think of a single good reason Qatar should get it other than blatant regional pandering. And FFS, if you're going to give it to a middle eastern country, give it to a place that actually has, you know, people and space and stadiums.
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12-02-2010 , 01:58 AM
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Originally Posted by ekky
theres no way it should be europe every 12 years

euro
americas
euro
africa
euro
rest of the world
euro
americas

this is how it should be. the world cup is a football competition, not a charity drive, and the only time it should deviate from this is like the NFL/NBA come to england for their games to spread the word and try to make more money. Fifa wont make money taking it to places like australia with any frequency. Give them a bone every 100 years and let the proper countries take it.
Europe has had it every other time since its inception (until now). I am European, you are being incredibly unrealistic and unfair here. I would dread for England to get it if everyone had your attitude, god forbid it was taken away from 'proper countries' like England and given to Australia, probably the most sporting nation on Earth.

Football is a sport with worldwide appeal like no other. Europe is where the money and infrastructure specifically for football is but the rest of the world is slowly catching up. Time to face facts. More and more countries are capable of hosting it and this global sporting tournament should be spread around as much as possible and as fairly as possible. Giving it to Europe every other time for no good reason other than 'money' and 'we have proper countries' is unfair not to mention not the best for growth of the game worldwide either. You can't make a statement like 'this is how it should be' without backing it up with anything other than 'we is a propah football country' like some sort of Harry Redknapp clone.
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12-02-2010 , 02:04 AM
Just a word of warning, there will be basically a zero tolerance policy for racism/anti-religious sentiment/what have you as well as the standing WC thread policy of no "lol soccering" before, during, and after the announcement tomorrow.

Someone is bound to be pissed off/disappointed no matter what happens, but keep it (relatively) clean.

Thanks.
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12-02-2010 , 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Ra_Z_Boy
Why would it never be a good idea? You sound like a racist. Qatar is like Dubai or Kuwait. Hosting a sporting event there is not an issue.
uber weak race card played here imo
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12-02-2010 , 02:09 AM
they gie it to europe because its the biggest supporters of football. im sure australia and their perth super warriors league with 8 teams in it think that football is important, im sure that korea/japan with their love of baseball also are happy to have their part time soccer teams fly the flag

the simple fact is that europe provides almost all of the worlds soccer entertainment year on year, so if you think it should routinely go to other continents that dont really give a f about football, i repeat again, its not a charity drive.

the only countrys catching up are the americans, and you have said they dont deserve it with any frequency, so to be honest i dunno what you are yapping on about.
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12-02-2010 , 02:09 AM
He thinks it would be a bad idea to host a football tournament in an entire region.....ever. Sounds pretty racist to me.
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