lololol, this is all jut so great the Joker GOAT-tards are just getting slaughtered as I knew they eventually would someday, <3's this thread. IDK if anyone's mentioned this yet but....

Nadal- The King of Clay: 5 major wins outside the French
Joker - The King of Winning at AUS and the weakening the rest of the year: 6 major wins outside Australian

The Nadal can only win on 1 surface argument can barely be used to defend Joker as GOAT anymore.

Fed
Nadal
Joker

It's settled.

<sarcasm>

Also looking back to Joker's era of dominance. There really wasn't much competition back then. He had an old fed, Nadal who can only win on clay, and a bunch of other weak guys that couldn't beat him. He dominated, so really that means everyone else was terrible. We didn't have guys like Tomas Berdych and Marin Cilic and Stan Wawrinka back then.

Also it seems to indicate Murray's peak was in April 2009 which makes zero sense considering he won nothing of consequence up to that point. He won 6 straight vs Federer outside of majors during 2006-2009, so if 2007 Federer is the GOAT I guess that could have that hilarious effect on his ELO? He had made 2/13 quarterfinal grand slam appearances, but has apparently never quite returned to that form despite going to 28/33 since.

quote at 1:40 says it best

So you should be able to take those ELO values and go back and plug them into a win probability model and see how close they are to historical match odds. Can't imagine they say anything other than Brazil is 1:1 to win the World Cup.

Damn I just start reading this thread from here the last page ....
Why is there 58 pages ?
Praising Federer or really some here think his got competition ????

Haha del potro

Posting in 🐐🐐 thread

Can't believe there are so many pages arguing this

Come out Djokovic slappies.

Yesssssss JOHNNY MAC vindicated once again. If you adjust for inflation, his peak in 2017 ELOs is 3156.

Lock it up

i mean lol with that list.
Murray, Becker ( even if he was my favorite player) over Sampras , really ?
I mean just lol !!! Del potro over Agassi ?
My eyes are bleeding...

1 year peak performance ( even 2) do not make a career to be the goat!

can you please not spread your aids to other threads please.

Please, u have no idea what my background in sport , but even tho some are not my forte, tennis is really another thing .......
Please don't even start because if you disagree on what I just said, like in NBA , you have absolutely no idea what your talking about !
And here, it is probably the final nail in your coffin that confirm's it .
I just lol ...
Ps: and seriously I shall stop replying to you, just endless time I just kept totally own you on facts ( and even take your own source that we're saying the opposite of your opinion lol) and you never were able to reply to.
So I'll stop wasting my time, thx .

Pss: would be nice for once you bring facts or opinion instead of just bashing people .
Your trolling kinda becomes redundant.
I mean, get a life ...

HEADSHOT TWIGLEY

Nuked that iggymcfly gimmick account.

montrealcorp, keep your slapfighting out of this thread. Containment is a thing for a reason.

Agree, similar if lets say the big four are all out injured and for some random loads of players pull out here there and every where and lets say someone like Cilic goes on to win 3/4 slams, finals the other. Wins 7/9 1000 events.

He'd have a higher 'peak' than anyone.

Fed GOAT. Lock this thread up!

I got got.

Some djoker fan must've gone for the reverse-jinx with the title change

It ain't gonna work

lol at that list, seriously



federer in route to another gs ship

Still laughing at Del Potro

New thread title just becoming more correct by the day....

As a chess player, wanna say a few things about this Elo thing. Most chess players live and die by their rating to the point where they don't even refer to opponents by name but by numbers...

Person A: How is your tournament going so far?
Person B: Win against a 2100, draw against a 2000, lost to a 2200 etc

Elo ratings are a fine and good way to rate how someone is playing right at this moment and over the last year prior but that's it. No one would ever think of using "peak elo rating" across decades because it's ridiculous. A hot streak will always be responsible for whenever your peak was, the true test of it is how long you MAINTAIN your high Elo. My chess Elo over the board has been between 2000-2100 for the last 3 years or so, however there was a brief time it was 2120. By this deliberately deceptive way or presenting the data I'd be listed as better than I am.

Furthermore at the top level we care about titles because there are 2 different routes to get the same Elo rating. It takes into account your strength and the strength of your opponent and then does a point transference based on win expectation. You gain more points for beating someone much better than you, but lose very little if you lose to them, and visa versa. Therefor one can achieve a 2100 rating by always beating the players worse than them and always losing to players better than them. Another person may get there by not being as consistent against lower ranked opponents but also occasionally will put together some top level wins. Obviously the latter is preferable, better to be Stan Wawrinka than David Ferrer, but this won't show that. This is why they don't crown the World Chess champion by Elo rating, and no one even brings this up when trying to compare people in different era, the ratings can inflate or deflate over time depending on a variety of factors.

Lastly 1 point is a joke. As I said earlier chess players round to the lowest 100 pt group when classifying their opponent and result. 1 point is as meaningless as a penny.

Here are the pt differential win expectations vs a lower rated opponent:

1 point: 50.14%
100 pt: 64.00%
200 pt: 75.97%
300 pt: 84.90%
400 pt: 90.91%
1000pt: 99.68%

and I recall reading somewhere the margin of error is somewhere in the 50pt range.

One more hill to climb and that's Mt St Cilic baby

There are 136 people who voted in that poll who are being proven more and more wrong by the day

Speaking of chess... they are also aware he's GOAT

https://www.sportskeeda.com/chess/vi...-roger-federer