Once the brave young Englishman Justin Rose becomes the champion American golfer, I would like to propose another investment on English superiority over former colonies and in support of the ‘It’s coming home’ movement.

In these barren summer months, profitable investment ideas are harder to come by, but more gentlemanly pastimes like cricket are there to provide some opportunities for capital growth. Whilst individual games may provide the easiest returns (invest against Sri Lanka wherever possible), if our process requires the investment to still be available on Thursday, I can think of no better follow-up bet to Rose than backing the England Cricketing Team to be victorious in the ongoing World Cup. The only team of any concern is India, but with it hosted in England and Wales, our brave young men should be able to see them off in the final.

Investment Proposal
Back England to win the Cricket World Cup

lemme know when this is resolved. hoya i assume u will represent the Partnership pro bono if legal shenanigans occur? dont really want to spend the jrose monies on legal action

it appears we have a high quality Investment Proposal on the board

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donkeyrock, giroudgeous, ledders, sven o, mindfckr,

lets go fellas. i expect escrow = done prior to rose's winning putt tonight

What are the rules for debating a proposal? Do we want to wait until other proposals are in? Or can we let fly whenever if we view an investment as good or bad?

I think the following 3 elements of a proposal should be included always

1. The outline of the INVESTMENT for those unaccustomed to that sport/type of INVESTMENT. For winning a tournament, an explanation of the format would be good (i.e is it a best of 3 series, are their pushes/draws etc)

2. The date and time of the conclusion of the INVESTMENT, for those looking for channels to sweat said INVESTMENT.

3. The current price expected to be received.

4. Are we looking to BUY an investment, or potentially SHORT a specific investment, if we as a group of Fat Pubbingtons believe more in a stock FAILING, as opposed to SUCCEEDING

The following is a bit more information as a prospectus for the partners

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For reference, DER MARKT to win the Cricket World Cup is as follows

England $3.18 (+218)
India $3.5
Australia $4.2
New Zealand $9.8
West Indies $32

Upwards others.

The format is 10 teams in a group stage, full round robin (9 games), top four make the semi finals which are single elimination for two games. The tournament is halfway through so far, and it is almost certain that England will make the semi-finals, and that the other semi-finalists will be Australia, India and New Zealand.



The matchups are 2v3 and 1v4, with no real certainties as to which order the bracket will be.

We would essentially be INVESTING in a two leg parlay of England to beat India and either NZ or Australia (India will either play England in the semi finals, or be solid favourites (maybe -135/$1.75ish) to win the non-England semi final vs Aus or NZ)

Currently you can back England at $1.76 or India at $2.02 for their group game in two weeks. In reality, that market will probably settle at something around $1.83 England (-120) and India $1.90 (-110) for their group match, and we can expect a similar market for any potential final as well.

(forewarning that group game might involve SHENANIGANS as teams jostle for seeding. It is possible/likely the teams would want to meet NZ as opposed to each other in the potential semi-final round).

To add

The World Cup final would be on the 14th of July. The semi finals on 9th and 11th of July. It is likely that the INVESTMENT YIELD would remain similar to $3.18/+218 up until the 9th of July. If anything the yield might slightly go down if the bracket pans out with England and India on one side, and Aus/NZ on the other.

nope, no waiting necessary, fire away

the infoposts above are very good and i want to underline the fact that on betfair you can fade stuff as well as back it

fade Investments are just as eligible for consideration as traditional Investments

I sincerely doubt that our brave lads would attempt something like this in a World Cup.

Really quick.

I would be against backing England for the ODI Cup at that price for a few reasons.

1) Patriotic money always underprices England/USA and other large investment nations historically.

2) The structure of the Cup is basically a flippament, edges are narrow, and even with home field advantage, against competent opposition I find it hard to believe any team is better than 60% ($1.67) pre coin toss. If England were that price over two games, the fair price would be $2.78 (+178) and I feel they won't be when the time comes, they won't be that bigger favourites vs India or Australia. Betting the individual semi-finals might be a better idea closer to the date.

3) As an Upsidedownland investor, I find it morally reprehensible to be Investing in England. I realise I am likely in the minority.

Just my 2c.

All that said, given that we do not have any other potential INVESTMENTS on the table, and that investing is capped at 5% of liquid assets, I would still back in this investment over doing nothing, because why not.

Which is the inherent problem. It is more likely that the BRAVE LADS will end up with a tougher draw for the semi-finals, as other teams are SCALLYWAGS and angle for an easier semi final draw.

The final round of games are not played at the same time.

Englands final game is against NZ. Two days later, Sri Lanka play India and a few hours later Australia play South Africa

If NZ had top spot, India had second, 3rd was England with Australia half a point behind during their game, Australia might "accidentally" lose to South Africa to ensure they play NZ. India and NZ might also decide to act in bad faith and maybe accidentally lose a game they should win.

NZ have history of being scallywags here

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001%E2%80%9302_VB_Series

New Zealand deliberately lost the 11th game of the series by enough to give South Africa a bonus point, and make it harder for Australia (the consensus best team in the world at the time) to make the finals in game 12.

Australia also has a history of being scallywags

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/19...icketworldcup5

Australia as a nation also have a history of MAXIMISING +EV by losing games in other sports, and as a nation we were absolutely 110% behind it at the time. (even though we whinged about the 2012 badminton, but whatever)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_F...ball_World_Cup

TL;DR I feel that Englands BRAVE LADS don't have the WIM to maximise their chances of winning by angling for a softer semi final, and that they would have stopped when up 4-0 vs Thailand compared to the USA who scored 13 in the womens world soccer.

I feel as investors we should be GORDON GECKO'S and that business is business as opposed to such things as ETHICS and MORALS.

Proposed INVESTMENT sizing change:

The purpose of INVESTMENT PROPOSALS is to try to maximise the increase in size of F&BPC capital. Occasionally, an INVESTMENT PROPOSAL might arise which has unprecedented, historic possibilities to increase the working capital of F&BPC. I would be displeased if such an INVESTMENT PROPOSAL is limited by a 5% usage of current capital.

Therefore I propose that, in the rare event of a PROPOSAL of such outstanding value appearing, partners may vote to waive the 5% limit in order to fully maximise the possible return of this historic-level INVESTMENT.

I would stress this ought only to be considered in truly GOAT level INVESTMENT PROPOSALS. For example, if for whatever reason one of the greatest boxers of all time, an undefeated world champion, were to compete against an amateur fighter with an 0-0 record, whose only remarkable talents are being fairly good at a vaguely related sport and self promotion, and an INVESTMENT on the world champion would produce a 25% return on invested capital, greater than if said world champion were to face an actual professional boxer instead.

64,

there does in fact exist a mechanism for what you describe: Special Resolutions

Special Resolution Proposals require the support of ten Partners. Once this threshold has been achieved, the Resolution is put up to an all-Partner vote. Partners are then given ample time to cast their vote

The Special Resolution will be Actioned if it achieves a simple majority at the ballot box

The Special Resolution process will take some time to go from Proposal to Action, which is fine - one wouldn't want to rush this sort of thing

There is no limit to the number of Special Resolutions which may be Proposed, but management reserves the right to control the timetable on such matters in order to protect against potential rogue Partner activity

No draw is tough for a team led by noted brave Englishman Eoin Morgan

But basically this, not a lot to invest in at the moment. Plus it might help civilise our American colleagues to learn about cricket early on, making the remaining year of the Partnership more pleasant for all involved

Any tips on how to view investmentfair markets if I don't live in a country with access to that particular site?

vpn would presumably work altho ive no idea how to do that

alternatively u could view them via oddschecker maybe



bit of a gimp way to do it but best ive got

I'm sure the hola add on would do it

Install the Hola extension for Chrome. Select a country to browse from. Profit!

Hola extension is basically spyware afaik, but there should be other vpn extensions that do the same job.

Since their captain was stolen from us just like our resources and culture I must protest this investment opportunity. Also it's actually England and Wales but the Welsh get forgotten and also that's such a bizarre sporting situation I just dislike the whole enterprise.

Is that how this works? A tranche may suggest each week in order but anyone can protest?

yep, tranche proposes, the Partnership as a whole debates and votes, top 3 vote getting Investments are Actioned (a new thread with poal will be put up when we have sufficient Proposals)

Am in contact with Vader to resolve the payment situation. Sven O seems largely absent from the forum nowadays and mindfckr might've been murdered by Balkan thugs

Their loss

I'll cover their contribution, and if they ultimately no-show, it'll be just be an additional infusion of capital imo

i'll send hoya 38.07$ now

in that case i will tick them off the list and here's the latest spreadsheet

Partner	Escrow	Investment	Geography	Specialism
$Betpot$	BOIDS	£10.00	U.K.
abysmal01	BOIDS	£10.00	U.K.
arcdog	BOIDS	£10.00	U.K.
BOIDS	BOIDS	£10.00	U.K.	Lee Westwood
BOIDSMUM	BOIDS	£10.00	U K
DonkDonkDonkDonk	BOIDS	£10.00	U.K.
DonkeyRock	BOIDS		U.K.
Giroudgeous	BOIDS		U.K.
Hoopie1	BOIDS	£10.00	U.K.
joejoe1337	BOIDS	£10.00	U.K.	Political Investing
kingofcool	BOIDS	£10.00	U.K.
kingweed	BOIDS	£10.00	U.K.
Ledders	BOIDS		U.K.
LostOstrich	BOIDS	£10.00	UK	Complex Parlay theory/pissing money up wall
lukethefluke	BOIDS	£10.00	U.K.
martymc1	BOIDS	£10.00	UK	Rigged NI league
mic_check12	BOIDS	£10.00	U.K.
NicReynolds	BOIDS	£10.00	U.K.
Ra_Z_Boy	BOIDS	£10.00	U.K.	Irish tomfoolery eg hurling
sixfour	BOIDS	£10.00	U.K.	fat drunken mini-archery
Tall Paul	BOIDS	£10.00	U.K.	xG analysis
tchaz	BOIDS	£10.00	U.K.
Yippee ki-yay	BOIDS	£10.00	U.K.
8bus	CPHoya	$12.69	USA	Striker evaluation
aditya	CPHoya	$12.69	USA
AngryPanda	CPHoya	$12.69	Outer space
Bidz	CPHoya	$12.69	USA
C Bids	CPHoya	$12.69	USA
CalledDownLight	CPHoya	$12.69	USA
CPHoya	CPHoya	$12.69	USA	Tennis and SCOTUS Rulings
cviggity	CPHoya	$12.69	USA
DuckSauce	CPHoya	$12.69	USA
El Rata	CPHoya	$12.69	BRAVE CANADA	World cup investing
Empire Man	CPHoya	$12.69	USA
Eric Clipperton	CPHoya	$12.69	BRAVE CANADA	World Cup Biathlon
gregorio	CPHoya	$12.69	BRAVE CANADA
Hellmuth was right	CPHoya	$12.69	USA
Jake7777	CPHoya	$12.69	USA
KDawg	CPHoya	$12.69	USA
kidcolin	CPHoya	$12.69	USA
Kutuz_off	CPHoya	£12.69	USA
LFC_USA	CPHoya	$12.69	USA	Rigged Mexican league
mw828	CPHoya	$12.69	USA
Schlitz mmmm	CPHoya	$12.69	USA
tabbaker	CPHoya	$12.69	USA
tarheeljks	CPHoya	$12.69	USA
thebigeasy59	CPHoya	$12.69	USA	fat drunken mini-archery
thedinergetsby	CPHoya	$12.69	USA	small conference shenanigans
TheGramuel	CPHoya	$12.69	USA
younguns87	CPHoya	$12.69	USA	Heisman and spelling bee futures
Zimmer4141	CPHoya	$12.69	USA	NCAA Football and something else
didonk	royablue	€11.23	Euro	Dutch 2nd division
andre006 (Associate)	royalblue	€12.89	Euro	Andre Johnson studies
ashley12	royalblue	€11.23	Upsidedownland
Fatal Checkraise	royalblue	€11.23	Euro
Jabonator	royalblue	€11.23	Euro
MindFckr	royalblue	€11.23	Euro	Rigged ex-soviet leagues
royalblue	royalblue	€11.23	Euro
Sven O	royalblue	€11.23	Euro
TehVader	royalblue	€11.23	Euro
vruuuuk	royalblue	€11.23	Euro
xXDeuce7Xx	royalblue	€11.23	Euro	Unlikely brace opportunities
Cinarocket	teejayC	€11.23	Euro	Belgians/NBA OU totals
PeteBlow	teejayC	£10.00	U.K.
teejayC	teejayC	£10.00	U.K.

i should have £200 in paypal for 20 entrants (and i do), RB should have 91.50 euros (8 entrants) (plus possibly vader's 11 euros which got caught somewhere in the intertubes, sort that out later), hoyaids should have about $392 (31 entrants). Teejay should have £30 for 3 entants. escrowers, if any of this is wrong let me know asap

that's a total of 62 Partners escrowed, which leaves three: DonkeyRock, Giroudgeous and Ledders.

if anyone wants to stump up for those lads, be my guest. if not they have until i get home from work tomorrow, or else they are DIVESTED from this Partnership with prejudice. i would stump up but i ran out of my allotted amount of generosity for this decade

Thanks for running this btw boids, splendid job.

Cmon Group A. Gimme so INVESTMENTS to mull over.

I realize the price to get in this highly lucrative project is changing rapidly, what is the price if I send usd to CPHoya within the next couple of hours, if spots are still available?