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Old 08-26-2016, 08:10 AM   #251
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Re: Euröpean Football 2016/17

well, the bundesliga is here, boys.

what better way to kick it off than a matchup of the two most winningest teams in league history. should be an epic fight today
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Old 08-26-2016, 08:17 AM   #252
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I'm content if Werder concede less than five.

Going to see Sandhausen vs Stuttgart later. Will probably be a home game for VfB.
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Old 08-26-2016, 08:26 AM   #253
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Seems likely. Sandhausen do a great job. First season in a while w/o a point deduction, too.
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Old 08-26-2016, 08:30 AM   #254
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Yeah I won't bother with the game tonight either I think, going to see Bochum-Hannover first and will probably just look for a nice pub to sit outside (I hope it's bearable by then)
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Old 08-26-2016, 08:40 AM   #255
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Re: Euröpean Football 2016/17

…where the Green-Whites stand against Bayern statistically? The Bavarians have won almost half of the hundred Bundesliga meetings between the two sides (49 matches) but SVW have inflicted more defeats on Bayern than any other club in the German first division (26).

http://www.werder.de/en/news/news/we...bayernpreview/
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Old 08-26-2016, 08:45 AM   #256
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Re: Euröpean Football 2016/17

Speaking of Werder they sure are taking their sweet time sending me my Golfsburg ticket, I mean the confirmation e-mither I got did say it'd arrive in good time for the match, but it's kind of silly when I've had my effzeh one for over a week and I ordered that one second
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Old 08-26-2016, 09:10 AM   #257
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I'm content if Werder concede less than five.
i'd be suprised if werder scores

4-0 prediction
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Old 08-26-2016, 11:51 AM   #258
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Reading some of the internet previews has me convinced this season's bundesliga is gonna be a hot hot 4 team race to the finish because bayern had <50% poss in the super cup and everyone else is primed for massive improvements despite dortmund losing their 3 best players and leverkusen needing to bridge a 30-pt gap so yeah I just want to say I'm totally stoked to the max about it. legggooo
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Old 08-26-2016, 12:00 PM   #259
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Re: Euröpean Football 2016/17

On the other hand, 11 Freunde's season preview booklet asks you on the first page when in February Bayern will win the title
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Old 08-26-2016, 12:03 PM   #260
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I looked at the odds to win it and it was like buyern -700, bvb +600, and leverkusen was 3rd at like +3000 or something ridiculous.
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Old 08-26-2016, 12:07 PM   #261
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Reading some of the internet previews has me convinced this season's bundesliga is gonna be a hot hot 4 team race to the finish because bayern had <50% poss in the super cup and everyone else is primed for massive improvements despite dortmund losing their 3 best players and leverkusen needing to bridge a 30-pt gap so yeah I just want to say I'm totally stoked to the max about it. legggooo
Aye, when I was listening to some preview danish podcast this little fact also seemed to have played total mindtricks on them and one even predicted Dortmund as champions. I hear Honigstein is doing the same!

For better or worse I managed to not even consider that super cup game at all in my lil (top 3) preview postings from yesterday in the transfer thread. I'm not even sure it was there subconsciously. I did at least remember to throw in there that Ancelotti has missed out on good league chances before, but I dunno, it was mostly just to mention it just in case. Not sure it's all that relevant.

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It's definitely those 3 for my top 3.

Leverkusen are in better shape to avoid that dip that they usually have (some will say because of how they play) if their improved squad is managed well.

On paper it does feel like Leverkusen and Dortmund odds should be closer than what they are, but there must be confidence in various of the young, it has to be said, ELITE, talent that Dortmund has acquired, or had at their disposal already, will have immediate impact this season.

I'm not saying they aren't favorites over Leverkusen but with Leverkusen's additions, some from parts of last season that they'll have fully now, I think it's more you know what you'll get with Leverkusen than it is Dortmund.

Volland hopefully taking/upgrading many of Kiessling's and/or Mehmedi's minutes, full season of Aranguiz and Kampl who are both excellent fits, a host of solid centrebacks and where Dortmund has more emerging talent, at least Leverkusen has Benjamin Henrichs who has fantastic potential for all sorts of things. Then there is Julian Brandt, quite possibly the player of the Olympic tournament, who is getting better and better.

For Dortmund the level of Marc Bartra will be pretty huge. I've definitely liked him a lot before but of course it's another world here away from Barca even if Tuchel is exactly who you'd want to make his conditions optimal.

Guerrero at left-back I'm now fully on board with and doubts are long gone at this point. He really does seem excellent. In fact I think I even like him over Wendell who is pretty damn good and gets a lot of hype.

Tuchel is fantastic and with Reus injury concerns it's really all about who and how or when these young attacking midfielders reach their ceiling.

Dembele will have to be the almost sure great thing and he probably is. Then at least one more will have to be better than Schürrle, so that he is "only" a role-player though previously for Tuchel at Mainz he was actually more than that for once, but the more better him the better. The potential is certainly there, and then finally there is Götze who I lean towards being a nice redemption story, but we'll see.

I feel like I talked Leverkusen up here vs Dortmund but you can't ignore Reus, Aubameyang and Weigl being better than anything that Leverkusen has, hence the difference in odds, with Hummels and Mikhi this was one of the very best teams in the world. I guess I'm actually not so worried about Mikhi because there is so much talent that will have a real go at taking over, even if more collective than just one individual. Hummels is tougher to replace I think and he had more unique impact than just about any centreback, but as long as the replacement isn't bad per se, a new centreback playing shouldn't have huge negative impact if the team is otherwise good.

Aubameyang injured would be bad, and Reus too much injured with not enough of the talent making impact would be bad.

When it comes to Bayern. For some reason over his long career Ancelotti has at times not won with pretty good favorites for league titles and I guess there is possibility that they'll lose some amount of in-game dominance without Pep pushing things tactically, but the squad and the culture is so fantastic that prolonged letdowns are difficult to imagine. Ancelotti isn't an idiot either and won't try to change all sorts of things, much will look the same, after all the players are largely the same. His special input will be his usual fitting in as many as the best players as possible with decent defensive balance also possible at the same time. He has a knack of succeeding with that. Then maybe sacrifice some small pct of possession for direct moments here and there with favored automatisms, longer forward passes+off-ball runs, to the players up front.

I don't expect the counterpressing to go AWOL and if they fall back more sometimes, they can also be devastating in more Italian-style transition against plenty of Bundesliga teams.

So, I'm saying same top 3 as last season! Same order too.

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Old 08-26-2016, 01:37 PM   #262
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Re: Euröpean Football 2016/17

thanks for copying that Bjorn, really enjoy reading your contributions here.

Good point with the culture remaining at Bayern despite Pep leaving. I think people forget that Bayern we're pretty damn good before Pep as well so no reason to expect a significant drop off in league even if Ancelotti has a penchant for the champion's league. Bayern didn't lose any key contributors and added Hummels/Sanches. If Robben/Ribery stay healthy they are unbeatable it seems.

Tuchel's project at Dortmund looks super promising with all their exciting young talent but hard to see them go the full season without struggling at some point. It's far more likely imo that Leverkusen overtakes them than either overtaking Bayern for the title. In my head Schmidt's team is a more experienced, better version of Tottenham, exciting to watch and more capable of truly elite performances.

Selfishly from a neutral perspective, I hope it's a close race but it's probably going to take Leicester levels of run good for either team to compete. But that's what August is for, hope springs eternal!
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Old 08-26-2016, 02:05 PM   #263
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Re: Euröpean Football 2016/17

man i don't even feel like robben and ribery are their best options any more - costa and coman seem better at this point.
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Old 08-26-2016, 02:23 PM   #264
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Bayern look done to me. It's true that they were good before Guardiola but a lot of those players got old very quickly (Lahm, Schweinsteiger, Ribery, Robben) and others are missing (Kroos wanted to get paid, Javi Martinez hurt too much). That's not coming back.

Lewandowski and Douglas Costa look lost, Müller nowhere near good enough to carry a team and they were basically held together by Guardiola magic and Vidal WIM in the second half of last season. They'll probably still get 2nd, but the great Bayern is long gone.
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Old 08-26-2016, 02:29 PM   #265
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Old 08-26-2016, 02:33 PM   #266
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are they chanting over the national anthem or just really bad at singing?
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Old 08-26-2016, 02:37 PM   #267
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are they chanting over the national anthem or just really bad at singing?
wondering the same thing. i thought national antheming before games was just an american thing. is that normal or just a season kickoff sort of thing?
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Old 08-26-2016, 02:39 PM   #268
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Re: Euröpean Football 2016/17

Aron Johannsson sighting for werder good to see him healthy again
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Old 08-26-2016, 02:44 PM   #269
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8th minute still 0-0 surprised bremen has held on this long
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Old 08-26-2016, 02:45 PM   #270
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8th minute still 0-0 surprised bremen has held on this long


that hummels pass a couple minutes ago was nuts
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Old 08-26-2016, 02:49 PM   #271
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alonso goat and lewa goat
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Old 08-26-2016, 02:57 PM   #272
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I wonder where Sugar Nut is. Last post was a month ago.
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Old 08-26-2016, 02:59 PM   #273
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Probably cashy levels of busy

Those were two good hits
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Old 08-26-2016, 03:07 PM   #274
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Oh and that's a bad miss
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Old 08-26-2016, 03:14 PM   #275
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anyone knows what position vidal plays, dude is wild
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