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Yeah that's incredible. Honestly even putting aside the amazing cardio shape you have to be in to wrestle for 60 minutes, being good enough to keep an audience's captive attention is an impressive feat.

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11-12-2017 , 10:08 PM

#3527

suzzer99

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I'm thinking greenies or something. Blow wears off too fast.

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11-13-2017 , 12:19 AM

#3528

Dynasty

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It was standard for the traveling NWA champions (Thesz, Kiniski, Funk Jr., Brisco, Funk, Race, and Flair) to have one hour matches that ended in draws with a wide range of opponents.

Being able to do that was basically a prerequisite for the job.

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11-13-2017 , 04:33 PM

#3529

Chip Niche

old hand

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That was easily one of the best documentaries I've ever seen period.

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01-23-2018 , 12:07 PM

#3530

Perhaps Shimmy

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New 30 for 30 on feb 1st. "The Two Bills" About Bill Parcells and Belichick's relationship

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Bill Belichick is getting ready to try to win his sixth Super Bowl with the Patriots. But a victory at Super Bowl LII would actually earn Belichick his eighth Super Bowl ring, as he won two as defensive coordinator for Bill Parcells with the Giants.

The long relationship between Belichick and Parcells is explored in the new 30 for 30 documentary The Two Bills, which premieres on ESPN on February 1. It details the decades-long relationship with the two men, which started when Belichick applied for a job on Parcells’ staff at Air Force, moved to Belichick working for Parcells with the Giants, saw them coach against each other when Belichick was in Cleveland and Parcells was in New England, and then saw Belichick work for Parcells again with the Jets before leaving for the Patriots.

The documentary alternates back and forth between NFL Films footage of their time coaching in the 1980s and 1990s, and a recent joint interview the two men gave. Both men seem to agree that Parcells was the better coach when it came to relating to and motivating players, while Belichick was the superior strategist. Parcells credits Belichick for the game plans that shut down Bill Walsh’s offense in San Francisco and Joe Gibbs’ offense in Washington. Belichick says in the recent interview that he appreciates Parcells calling him aside from time to time and teaching him other aspects of being a head coach.

“I so appreciate what you did, Bill,” Belichick told Parcells. “Periodically I’d go into your office and you’d say, ‘I just want you to know what’s going on.’ . . . The draft, maybe a player’s got a discipline problem or a contract problem, when you’re a defensive coordinator you don’t know about all that, but Bill would tell me what’s going on. I really appreciate you doing that. It helped open my eyes to some things that I really wasn’t playing much attention to.”

Belichick and Parcells also have a remarkably detailed memory of game plans. They both could recall exactly how Belichick proposed running the dime as the base defense to stop the Lions’ run and shoot offense in 1990, and how Parcells thought running the dime as a base defense was ridiculous. And then they simultaneously smiled as they remembered how the Giants ended up beating the Lions 20-0.

Parcells controversially jumped from the Patriots to the Jets in 1997, and Patriots owner Robert Kraft says in the documentary that the NFL basically allowed the Jets to get away with tampering with Parcells. Kraft, who would later feud with the league office over Deflategate, first began to question the integrity of the league office over its handling of the Parcells transition.

“It also told me that the league office was not as pure as I might have thought,” Kraft said. “I think the league office tacitly blessed it and told them how to do it.”

For his part, Parcells sounds regretful, wondering if he could have lasted as long in New England and had the same success as Belichick if only he would have developed a better rapport with Kraft.

“If I had just been a little bit smarter about it and a little bit more diplomatic I think it probably would have worked out. Maybe not to the extent it did for Bill, but I think it could have worked out better,” Parcells said.

That “maybe not” is an extraordinary admission from Parcells. He’s a Hall of Fame coach, but he has to admit that in the end, his protege Belichick has had even greater success. Parcells sounds both proud of that and a little jealous, as a competitor who always wanted to be the best. That’s the kind of relationship the two Bills had.

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01-23-2018 , 05:11 PM

#3531

Dominic

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no ****ing interest in that

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01-24-2018 , 07:54 PM

#3532

SuperUberBob

Not interesting enough

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Just two old guys talking about how great they think the other one is.

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01-24-2018 , 08:22 PM

#3533

REDeYeS00

always sloppy

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Originally Posted by Dominic

no ****ing interest in that

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Originally Posted by SuperUberBob

Just two old guys talking about how great they think the other one is.

and cameos by all the pats fans

Spoiler:

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01-24-2018 , 09:44 PM

#3534

Bidz

Hurts so good

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01-24-2018 , 09:46 PM

#3535

Henrik Sedin

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Yeah watching 2 old men jerk each other off? That's a hard pass, dawg

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01-25-2018 , 03:54 PM

#3536

Perhaps Shimmy

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Looking forward to Belichick's real name being revealed as Hitler McRapeMurderer

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01-31-2018 , 01:46 PM

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Gary Wise

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That is one remarkably stupid tweet.

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01-31-2018 , 04:33 PM

#3538

borg23

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just saw the ric flair one and it's amazing

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02-02-2018 , 03:47 PM

#3539

brandoncla

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Thought the 2 Bills was solid since I've always been light on 80's NY Giants info and Belichick coaching career path. Not the best but not the worst.

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02-02-2018 , 05:25 PM

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Tom Ames

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Originally Posted by brandoncla

Thought the 2 Bills was solid since I've always been light on 80's NY Giants info and Belichick coaching career path. Not the best but not the worst.

Yep. Fine but not awesome.

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09-21-2018 , 12:06 PM

#3541

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Apparently a new 30 for 30 about Junior Seau and CTE was released last night on ESPN+

Wtf is ESPN+?

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09-21-2018 , 12:08 PM

#3542

master3004

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Right? Sports center was on in the background and I saw o the bottom line "Seau debuting now on ESPN+"

Went to my guide and couldn't find it anywhere. Well played ESPN/Disney

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09-21-2018 , 01:21 PM

#3543

suzzer99

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If there's one thing ESPN needs it more channels.

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09-21-2018 , 01:34 PM

#3544

SuperUberBob

Not interesting enough

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ESPN+ is an online-only channel that you need to subscribe to separately.

So stupid to do that with 30 for 30. It's the only thing worth watching on ESPN.

Here's a link to the trailer

http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=24634460

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09-21-2018 , 02:02 PM

#3545

master3004

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I saw the trailer. I'm incredibly interested in CTE, so this 30 for 30 looks amazing. How stupid that it's only available through subscription.

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09-21-2018 , 07:18 PM

#3546

SuperUberBob

Not interesting enough

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There are probably websites where you will be able to watch it for free sooner or later.

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09-22-2018 , 09:43 PM

#3547

suzzer99

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Wow - someone at the top of ESPN brass must hate 30 for 30. There's no reruns or anything on any regular ESPN channels. Just the shorts.

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09-22-2018 , 09:50 PM

#3548

loK2thabrain

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It's like $5 a month lol poors

Jk I ****ing hate it too and I refuse to pay them for what is probably a poor quality stream anyways.

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09-22-2018 , 09:59 PM

#3549

suzzer99

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Also I gotta deal with the Roku interface to watch it on my TV - which always pisses me off.

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09-22-2018 , 11:12 PM

#3550

SuperUberBob

Not interesting enough

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ESPN's been bleeding cash for years. ESPN+ is supposed to be their foray into streaming entertainment.

Unfortunately, they're 10 years late to the party. ESPN getting streaming media is like my dad getting his first laptop computer.

I guess people like douchebags spouting hot takes at each other for hours on end over something worth seeing.

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