This kit is truly awful.

One of the worst I've seen. Wait till you see our zebra style 3rd kit tho.

Update: am frantically trying to puke up bleach in case the comeback is truly on. Am doing it into a bowl, though, so I can swallow it again if we fail...

Holy ****ing moly

i'm shocked they let that goal stand after all these handballs given

Going Chelsea to not lose at half time seemed like costless currency

we're so poor I can't even use a one-time anti-jinx.

I have no idea if that is now handball by the Chelsea player in the box before their third.

fwiw, first Mou-era Chelsea would have coasted to a 0-4 win there.

Fwiw Danish commentators said that the old handball rule would have called that, because it was* virtually always a handball if a player touches it with his hand in the opponent's box, but now it has to be more egregious to get called, or something.

I'm glad it wasn't called, if it were I'd have thrown myself through the window.

I don't understand how that isn't handball. Did they change the rule AGAIN?

His arm wasn't away from his body, that's why it wasn't called as handball.

Also I'd go gay for Mason Mount.

I don't think that would work and would leave you disappointed. And gay.

Id go gay for a million quid but not for Mason Mount, each to their own i guess.

Line up 4-2-3-1 and put in another shocker. Colour me surprised and OFC all of Ole's mates in the press will say nothing about the system of set up.

Mount's good for way more than a million, though. If you get him as your sugar daddy you're set for life.

I agree with you. Personally I'm in the "Ole is not THE problem, but he is A problem"-camp.

He's done alright with what he's had, certainly with youngsters like Greenwood, but he's also shown he just doesn't really >do< anything tactically offensively. With every United game I see, I get more and more convinced his attacking strategy is "hope Bruno or someone else does something that leads to a goal".

I simply don't think he's a manager who will enable United to challenge Liverpool or City, even if he got Sancho and whoever else triple digit million player he or the more fanatic fans claim that he "needs" to do better than get outplayed by Palace and Brighton.

Which is another thing I find strange. Many United fans last year: "our starting XI is one of the best in the league" (I don't hugely disagree with that, even if I don't think it's close to Liverpool/City).
The same fans this year: "what can you do without more depth even though all of the XI are fresh?"

Sugar daddy you must be joking ive got some standards. One night then go on a booze and coke binge to take the pain away. Spend the million on the next one drop, get busted out first hand when Rick Salomon cracks my Aces with 9 3 off then go back to living a normal life of misery. Simples.

Very fitting that after all that money Chelsea spent this summer it was their academy kids that came through for them and scrapped a point.

They’re playing FIFA Ultimate Team with red lines everywhere.

There's no system. It's been almost two years of this experiment and there's no discernible style of play you can point to. We don't look like a team that's being coached at all most of the time, just 11 strangers being asked to run about and try to kick the round thing into the net thingy.

The main problem at Utd is the Glazers but I've been saying this for years. If Utd fans could stop thinking short term and just do whatever it takes to get rid of them + Woodward we'd be a million times better off. Every fan should ask themselves where do they really think the club will be in 20/30 years with the same owners? Fully boycott the club and force them to sell, it'll never happen because football fans are far from splitting the atom but the most +EV to do is get rid of them and have a structure closer to Bayern/Barca/Madrid.

United need players if we want to compete with Liverpool/City. We do not need players to compete with Palace/BHA. Ole is a clown and a yes man who wouldn't even have a premier league job if he hadn't been handed Utd when Mourinho was burning the place down.

Zidane get's a lot of **** for for "all he does is play his best 11 and is a decent man manager" but this skillset alone apparently makes him better than a ton of coaches. Incredible that an industry worth so many billions can have this type of rank mediocrity. Jobs for the boys is very much alive and well.

It's not easy to show you're boycotting at the moment.

I guess it depends whether Vigg is a mason.

Then it would probably make him and Mount mason-lovers.

I agree with everyone you say, bandit.

Though I do think Zidane should get a lot of credit, I think he's absolutely elite and one of the best managers in the world.
He's done something truly unique in the modern age of the game, and while many say well he just had Ronaldo, so did SAF but he won fewer UCLs in 26 years than Zidane did in 2.5, and Pep had what many call the best team in history and also wasn't close to three in a row. Not to mention he's done very well in the league, too, beating Lucho's MSN, in fact he's won as many league titles as he has begun seasons as manager (tho he won the first league after taking over halfway). I was singing his praise even before last season tho, check the old Europe thread. And he's just done incredibly well, many don't appreciate how many of Real's UCL KO games were won on the back of subs/tactical adjustments made by Zidane. (Even though I do agree "luck" played a part, but that's basically down to simply winning it once is usually to some extent a matter of luck).

This is entirely besides your point, though. Fundamentally I agree that Zidane didn't really have to "reinvent the deep plate" (a saying in Danish) to succeed, but getting the best of what you have is still a feat. And I don't think Ole is doing that. I agree he isn't winning the league with that squad, but he should do better.

have great players -> be brilliant manager

Hmmmmm that was interesting