dude c'mon. Well if those in peak physical condition with all the money in the world to isolate as much as possible arn't getting affected, then fk it. whats the point anymore.


hasnt it been said time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time since the very beginning, its predominately those already with conditions + age that causes deaths? just lol at talking about athletes. Also, hasnt there been quite a lot of medium-term effects on this on people? Which isnt being contributed in death chart groups.

Yea we also know 0-40 year olds are very very very rarely terminally affected. So why can't we let them work and live and isolate the vulnerable?

Is there actual data on medium term affects, how severe they are and what % of the positive cases they are affecting?

The point about athletes was more to show that people can get this virus and not pass it along to people. I think it was the entire LSU college football team has had it. Those kids aren't sitting in their dorms self isolating all day. There are people in society who the data supports are at very very low risk of death. They should be gradually allowed to restaurants, football matches etc...if they choose to do so.

"They didnt isolate the college football team because they had to continue to make the university hundreds of millions while not being compensated themselves" after being infected is uh, not a good point.

That you think it is realistic to sequester entire societies based on age is also, uh, interesting.

I also don't know why you're focused on terminal rates, it's one of the least important metrics of a very contagious disease.

now i havent kept up with the data that much recently, but is covid really going "oh this guys an athlete, when he breaths, lets not breath the virus into the air and infect those fat fkers, we will be nice and not allow these athletes to pass it onto people"

I miswrote. I meant that it can pass amongst a population and they can recover and go about their normal life just like an overwhelming % of society

People fly in planes but restaurants can't open.
Kids sports seasons are being cancelled. They can't go to school. Its backwards.

How long does it last? When does it end? What needs to happen? Zero deaths. I do agree with you that "fat fker" as you referred to him as is another massive problem that needs to be addressed as seriously as covid.

Every single student athlete had a choice whether or not they wanted to make those hundreds of millions while not being compensated themselves knowing the risks. In fact some did opt out. Most didn't. Choice

I'm focused on terminal deaths bc its the most cited reason for keeping the country closed. There's no reason to believe this will ever go away. Look at the flu. What we can say is it's much much much less deadly, and possibly weaker, than it was in March. At some point you have to live with it instead of hiding from it.

I know more people whove died from suicide and addiction relapse during the worst of the lockdown than I do of covid

The choice to be exploited isn't a choice for 17-23 year olds should be able to make. Trusting children to put their health ahead of playing a game isn't smart.

Why do you think it's "weaker and less deadly" than in March? There is absolutely zero data to back that up.

Terminal deaths are definitely not the reason most cited for lockdowns. It is the spread of the virus. Do you think previous pandemics never went away? You always become so, so uninformed on these kind of topics LFC

The fact that the death per case is way down. Again look at Georgia v. NJ. Of course included in that is we know more about it and can treat it better. The stats obviously tell the story that death per case is down. I dont get why death isn't important with regards to this. Now just getting sick and having symptoms of any kind has to be avoided at all costs?

17-23 year olds are children? We need the government to make their health decisions for them? What age is one an adult in your eyes?

You can tell me I'm uninformed all you want. It doesn't make it true. I just disagree with you on parts of most of these topics. In fact I've seen you try to subtly interject political talking points that are most unrelated into almost everyone of your posts. Your mind is clearly made up. I respect your fear and wanting to stay lock down. I respect adults wanting to go to a football match and parents wanting their children to go to school and not spend their childhood "learning" in front of a computer screen without social interaction.

Can someone please pm me when this is over? Cheers

Death figures explained by

- like the UK, they severely messed up by not properly protecting care homes in time, like the UK. Tegnell has apologised for this, Hancock/Johnson will never do anything like this
- Sweden was running severely below typical excess mortality levels in the two years prior to Covid, whereas Norway/Finland tracked the line of best fit. Very reasonable to infer that the rest of the Scandis would have equally bad figures compared to Sweden but for most of the typical Covid risk population already being dead. This is a correlation which is seen across all countries

Also, London has an underground rail network. Stockholm doesn’t.

Isn't that the same as a subway system? We do have that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_metro

this

Please stop with this and stick to the consensus rankings, you're making the murican crowd uncomfortable.

If you can post the above and not see how ridiculous you are being, then debate is pretty pointless.

The we had less excess deaths is super obvious and transparent arse covering by the Swedish state and has nothing to do with the reason they have twice the DPM of all the neighbours combined.

Sure it might explain a slightly higher metric but being able to add all the DPM of your neighbours together then times by two and still be ahead on DPM. Do you want to buy a bridge?

Sweden did not lock down, the others did, its that simple.

OAFK this last week or so is almost hitting Gambl0r vs the deplorable politards dude who got banned levels of smackdown.
(one of the best 2p2 moments ever, racist deplorable shithead who would be posting the *exact* anti covid takes some people are itt bets Gambl0r on who makes more money. Gambl0r tries to talk him out of it. Gambl0r makes more on *one paycheque* than racist dude does in a year)

If this discussion doesn't end soon then MindFckr and I are going to reignite the "Momentum" debate. You have been warned.

Again, do you not have the self awareness to realize on multiple, multiple subjects over the years when this thread derails to stuff outside of football you almost always make a fool of yourself?

I live in a place in Canada with very little population density. I am not afraid of COVID. I have been to movie theatres and restaurants, my province was down to 1 active case two months ago. I live somewhere that never locked down and never had to. Again, it should be a massive, massive moment of introspection that every time you assume something, you make a gigantic fool of yourself. But, it's been almost a decade of this and if a global pandemic won't cause an inch of introspection, nothing will.

To bring both "college athletes shouldn't be paid/aren't being exploited" and "let's pretend covid isn't a thing" or "let's radically segment our population and have the government decide who is and isn't healthy and make those who aren't self quarantine," you're full of scorching takes that are *insane.*

Cheers. Didn’t realise, despite two visits!

Has Lfc USA ever been right about anything? Like, ever?

I'm pretty sure he's big on MLS being crap so there's that

Rona containment thread pls

Do it.

Anything to make this stop.

We could also do the "are Southampton better than Burnley?" one again (they aren't).

We're ahead of you in xpoints tho

Yep my initial instincts were correct. You were just looking to politaid this from the beginning to make yourself feel good. I think college athletes should be paid btw but they're certainly not children and can decide dor themselves if they want to play a sport. As I thought you were just trying to interject your woke political platforms and couldn't just talk about covid itself. You've avoided multiple practical questions and rolled it into a separate issue. You didn't offer anything of practical solutions or discussion just immediately reverted to the omg you're so stupid, I'm so correct rhetoric