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Originally Posted by Elrazor
I'm neither mask-sceptical or otherwise - the evidence is clearly equivocal.
People who refuse to wear masks when shopping or on public transport are clearly ******s. I travel to work on the train, and I would refuse to let anyone sit next to me who was not wearing a mask.
However, the evidence suggests that when not in enclosed spaces masks appear to have little value, and may be detrimental due to behavioural factors such as people touching their faces to adjust their mask or believing they do not have to adhere to social distancing as the mask is protecting them.
I therefore thing it's slightly disingenuous to claim football crowds have been cancelled because a minority do not wear masks in the appropriate environments. There are clearly many factors involved in the recent spike in cases, and I'm sceptical whether so-called maskflaking played a role at all. This is especially true when you see statistics such as 80% of people failing to self-isolate after they have been identified through contact tracing.
I pretty much agree with this. I hate that I'm even responding to this but sports has truly taken a back seat and much less people care as evidenced by 5+ pages of COVAIDS itt.
I personally don't think masks are the be all and end all. I personally am not too bothered by this virus or getting it. However, wearing it for a few minutes in a supermarket or a post office or something like isn't a big deal and I do it for other people just to not be a complete *******. I don't think I'm saving my life or anyone else's life by wearing it, but it's simple enough to do that I'm not going to start some big thing over.
However I think with the data available it's dumb at this point that kids can't go to school (of course there's exceptions if in regular contact with elderly/immune compromised people), we can't have football etc. I also think for people who point to definitive science for so many decisions to definitively say that mask wearing/not maskwearing (or maskflakes as this thread refers to them) are solely and or largely responsible for spikes and the reason why sports can't have fans without any actual science to back that statement up is disingenous.
At some point people have to be let back into the world. There are clearly demographics that aren't overly affected by this. It's run through entire sports teams in some cases and they're still playing and performing. Yes, I get there is an unknown, but it is entirely hypothetical at this point, and people need to decide for themselves what risks they are and aren't willing to take. Of course in the extreme, politicized world we live in it has to be all of one thing or all of the other so this is nothing more than a fantasy. And of course I think aid and support should be provided to those who are immunocompromised/at risk if they do not feel comfortable going back into the world.
