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04-13-2021 , 11:17 AM
I understand none of them
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04-13-2021 , 01:00 PM
mspaint game still the best thing the thread has ever done
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04-13-2021 , 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by rickroll
I understand none of them
The Germans, SirG and the fr0g claimed it's purely down to the shirt that players play for Bayern, nothing to do with the money.

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Plop just embarrassed themselves defending racism.

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Amazing game. Reminded me of the score points
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04-13-2021 , 01:20 PM
you're a saint
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04-13-2021 , 01:35 PM
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mspaint game still the best thing the thread has ever done
Nothing even comes close
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04-13-2021 , 09:35 PM
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The comments of Ole about Son are way out of line. As somebody itt mentioned, maybe he got poked in the eye and that really hurts

Maybe he didn't but he deserves at least the benefit of the doubt and not have comments like Ole's thrown at him
When was the last time you rolled around on the ground for 5 minutes and needed treatment for something that was completely fine a few minutes later? If you were over the age of about 6 it was too recent.

Watching grown men behave like toddlers is just embarrassing and the fact that they're so often rewarded for it sucks.

Fwiw I thought it was a foul and a second yellow though I'd have overturned it for Son's performance.
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04-14-2021 , 05:48 AM
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When was the last time you rolled around on the ground for 5 minutes and needed treatment for something that was completely fine a few minutes later? If you were over the age of about 6 it was too recent.

Watching grown men behave like toddlers is just embarrassing and the fact that they're so often rewarded for it sucks.

Fwiw I thought it was a foul and a second yellow though I'd have overturned it for Son's performance.
Last time was when I got kicked in the balls, was in pain on the floor for 5 minutes and then was completely fine, thanks for asking.

Getting poked in the eye is really painful, maybe he did maybe he didn't but I feel sometimes we as casual watchers on our couch are too harsh to assume that because it looks theatrical and there is a high chance it is we can just afford to call it fake and comment on it like Ole.

You have obvious cases like the Neymars and the Rodrigo of last week but if there is a small chance it is genuine, then that chance is going to happen, you can't just discard it and not give benefit of the doubt ever.

But anyway, it's not so much about Son for me it's just the weird quote of Ole to talk about not feeding his children, it's honestly a creepy and bizarre comment to make, I'm sure he's smart enough to realize he was being out of line.

If he did mean it though then I can only assume Bruno has been starving since he joined Man United
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04-14-2021 , 06:01 AM
Yeah I've been in immense pain dozens of times through getting a ball or foot to the groin/chest, stepped on by cleats or other stuff that is really painful but fine 5 minutes later. I've also tried to run off actually breaking my ankle, foot and shin. It's hard to always know how hurt you are until the adrenaline stops and you take off your equipment sometimes.
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04-14-2021 , 06:42 AM
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04-14-2021 , 07:28 AM
That is like a top 10 Simpsons moment IMO.
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04-15-2021 , 05:50 AM
Amazing
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04-15-2021 , 06:18 AM
Needless to say I'm only buying Dulux from this point forward.
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04-15-2021 , 08:37 AM
‘I need some paint. Who is the official paint supplier of the football team I support?’

Said no one. Ever.
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04-15-2021 , 08:40 AM
I mean, yes, correct. But could you not say the same about literally any advertisers and sports?

Their logic is just to have the product mentioned as many times as possible for brand recognition, regardless of who you support. That being said, most of the research suggests it may not have much of an effect.
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04-15-2021 , 08:48 AM
It’s the ‘official x supplier’ bit that always makes me think how ridiculous it is.

X can equal anything, most of which I don’t believe for a second that the club needs or even uses. They’re taking these foolish brands for a ride.

Weren’t Rayban the official sunglasses supplier of Man Utd at some point?
How king have you been ‘supplying’ Man Utd?
Until now, we weren’t.
Oh ok. So they’re only buying them from you now?
Errr... We gave them all a couple of pairs each.
For free?
Errrr.. we paid them a million.
Did they see you coming or did they send a taxi?

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04-15-2021 , 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by joejoe1337
I mean, yes, correct. But could you not say the same about literally any advertisers and sports?

Their logic is just to have the product mentioned as many times as possible for brand recognition, regardless of who you support. That being said, most of the research suggests it may not have much of an effect.
Really? You'd think they wouldn't waste so much money on it then? I'd imagine being a PL team sponsor is not a cheap game.

Anyways, I would think that social media stunts do not work, but up to this point I didnt know I have a preferred paint brand. After that social media post with that dig how can you not love Dulux?
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04-15-2021 , 09:03 AM
You guys would be surprised, I had an app regularly getting 10k downloads a day spike to 2 million then 300k next day then 100k after that then trail of to a flat 20k a day now that it had more visibility and network effect

This was all because some d level celebrity I never heard of before said it was cool and shared some screenshots of it on her Facebook

She wasn't paid and she quit the app a week later too lol

I've also been sent a lot of those "become the official x of y" proposals and they're usually set up by third parties and involve a lot of details like I'm sure the team has a quota of players wearing ray-bans in their instagram feed etc in order to fulfill the contract
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04-15-2021 , 09:16 AM
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Really? You'd think they wouldn't waste so much money on it then? I'd imagine being a PL team sponsor is not a cheap game.

Anyways, I would think that social media stunts do not work, but up to this point I didnt know I have a preferred paint brand. After that social media post with that dig how can you not love Dulux?
I have no idea about advertising in relation to sports, but advertising research is generally pretty inconclusive. It tends to suggest that you can increase revenue by advertising in some circumstances (usually if you're new to whichever industry) but that there are huge diminishing returns.

The question of why they'd waste money is that they tend to believe that advertising has an effect, regardless of whether it's true or not.

This episode of freakonomics does quite a good job of painting the picture of research if you're interested: https://freakonomics.com/podcast/advertising-part-1/
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04-15-2021 , 09:23 AM
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I have no idea about advertising in relation to sports, but advertising research is generally pretty inconclusive. It tends to suggest that you can increase revenue by advertising in some circumstances (usually if you're new to whichever industry) but that there are huge diminishing returns.

The question of why they'd waste money is that they tend to believe that advertising has an effect, regardless of whether it's true or not.

This episode of freakonomics does quite a good job of painting the picture of research if you're interested: https://freakonomics.com/podcast/advertising-part-1/
+1 i think this is one of the main draws to online advertising, you can literally track it down to the minute detail to see what works, what doesn't and do tons of a/b testing to optimize it and the rest of the stuff is more traditional/prestige

i got to be pretty friendly with one of the guys who'd take me out to meals to pitch the next sponsorship to and he said it's a total crapshoot, super low success rate and more often than not the department head/ceo etc is looking for a prestige piece or is a personal fan of the team

when you're at the pain supply expo bumping shoulders with other paint company ceos, it could make him feel better knowing his brand is part of the premiere league or far more likely he's a huge spuds fan and really wanted to meet harry kane

he told me the holy grail of this was selling f1 partnerships because it was just pure prestige and cost a fortune to do it but there are just enough ceos who really want their logo on a car and will fight for that with aggressive bidding and they can always fall back on "it's an international sport with a high net worth fan base" if they need to justify it to stockholders, imagine golf is somewhat similar
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04-15-2021 , 09:37 AM
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‘I need some paint. Who is the official paint supplier of the football team I support?’

Said no one. Ever.
It would amuse me if a Wednesday fan tried this with the "taxi firm" that sponsor them, given they have as many taxis as points Wednesday have got after going behind this season
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04-15-2021 , 10:02 AM
I would guess back when sponsoring became a thing, it may have been more worth it because there were more local ties it. These days obviously the big money is in sportswashing.
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04-15-2021 , 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by PeteBlow
‘I need some paint. Who is the official paint supplier of the football team I support?’

Said no one. Ever.

but, if you're a random person who sees that paint advertised with Spurs, then you'll remember it a lot better than brand x and be more likely to buy it.
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04-15-2021 , 10:07 AM
On the plus side, McBurnie's out for the season
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04-15-2021 , 10:16 AM
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I have no idea about advertising in relation to sports, but advertising research is generally pretty inconclusive. It tends to suggest that you can increase revenue by advertising in some circumstances (usually if you're new to whichever industry) but that there are huge diminishing returns.



The question of why they'd waste money is that they tend to believe that advertising has an effect, regardless of whether it's true or not.



This episode of freakonomics does quite a good job of painting the picture of research if you're interested: https://freakonomics.com/podcast/advertising-part-1/
Cheers, I'll have a listen.

My missus works for a company that tracks online popularity and indexes (positive/negative mentions etc) - quite a few advertising agencies and brands hire them to track how their campaigns are doing.

Unfortunately politcal parties too. Its the less gross version of Cambridge Analytica.

So now I think the actual effect of campaigns will be measurable on a much more precise basis
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04-15-2021 , 11:43 AM
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‘I need some paint. Who is the official paint supplier of the football team I support?’

Said no one. Ever.
i always had this idea of a board meeting where they are trying to decide on a steel supplier for a £500m construction project. one bloke says 'we have conducted a cost benefit analysis which concludes xyz' and a lady counters with 'our value chain analysis suggests abc',, and some bloke stands up and goes excuse me but i was at The Dell last night for southampton 0 - 1 leeds and there was an advert for Rainham Steel
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