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Old 03-06-2021, 09:12 AM   #9726
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Re: English Football 2020-21 - now with 100% additional Yorkshire

That was painful.
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Old 03-06-2021, 09:24 AM   #9727
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God, that was amazing.
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Old 03-06-2021, 09:46 AM   #9728
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yeah i get that



unfamiliar with their soccer stuff but iirc the 538 model loses money each year when it paper trades and it's a running joke in the betting forum back when people posted there, not saying i can do better or anything



i think i mentioned this last year, but xg calculations are extremely subjective and have some massive holes in them, it's closest equivalent to US analytics would be defensive ratings in baseball, which everyone agrees are meaningless but nice to have as guidance



they don't account for the quality of a player, so a free kick taken by myself or by david beckham in his prime will will have the same xg so long as we kick it in the same general region



futhermore, by default, most off foot shots are dramatically reduced, to the point where it could have been .6 xg on the normal foot but .1 on the other, yet we know many players are excellent from both feet - this is a big reason why salah always outperforms his xg by significant margins



there's also a lot of "let's make the math work" done after the fact to normalize the data, this is why if you add up the individual player xG contributions, it does not equal the team xG



it's good stuff, i'm a big fan of it, it's a step in the right direction, but sadly the really good and actionable data is gathered by hd cameras who measure where everyone is on the field and that's all proprietary and none of the teams are letting that go public out of fear they may be ahead of the curve



i'd much rather just look at posession, corners and shots taken and find that more useful



i'm by no means an expert, just while doing my own modeling, i've found xg to not be all that useful if i was already accounting for the more traditional data, it was more a way smooth out the edges than anything else
I dunno how it's done in epl, but it's far and away absolutely crushed it in both men's and women's world cup for like 3 straight iirc.
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Old 03-06-2021, 09:59 AM   #9729
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Scream more Laca
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Old 03-06-2021, 10:03 AM   #9730
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Quite the impressive appearance from Peters

Insta yellow card
Should've conceded a pen
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Old 03-06-2021, 10:05 AM   #9731
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Handball rule perfectly fine
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Old 03-06-2021, 10:06 AM   #9732
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Lucky to get away with that, but after the decisions we've had against Arsenal over the years, it's payback time.
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Old 03-06-2021, 10:08 AM   #9733
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And that was a bad miss.
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Old 03-06-2021, 10:09 AM   #9734
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pepe worth every penny for the lolz
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Old 03-06-2021, 10:09 AM   #9735
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But not as bad as that one.
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Old 03-06-2021, 10:11 AM   #9736
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Lol Andrew Marriner
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Old 03-06-2021, 10:12 AM   #9737
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Nowhere near a pen that one.

Tremendous block
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Old 03-06-2021, 10:13 AM   #9738
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lol that was just pathetic

I was sitting here thinking that's going to be given.
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Old 03-06-2021, 10:13 AM   #9739
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Did Marriner just show him a yellow? Then he's off, I'm confused
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Old 03-06-2021, 10:15 AM   #9740
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Did Marriner just show him a yellow? Then he's off, I'm confused
You are, aren't you. What on earth would he be showing a yellow for?
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Old 03-06-2021, 10:16 AM   #9741
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He pulled out a red then a yellow, you tell me
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Old 03-06-2021, 10:17 AM   #9742
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He showed him a red.

Then afterwards he showed him a yellow then a red and done like a no signal.

WTF?

I rewound it. He showed a red. Then showed a yellow then a red after the decision was cleared up.
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Old 03-06-2021, 10:20 AM   #9743
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He pulled out a red then a yellow, you tell me
Your answer lies here:

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Lol Andrew Marriner
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Old 03-06-2021, 10:23 AM   #9744
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I think he pulled out the red, motioned as if to rescind it, then just randomly showed a yellow again, lol these refs
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Old 03-06-2021, 10:23 AM   #9745
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Old 03-06-2021, 10:25 AM   #9746
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Would love to read Xhakas contract, never gets dropped or subbed
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Old 03-06-2021, 10:28 AM   #9747
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Re: English Football 2020-21 - now with 100% additional Yorkshire

No team in the history of sports has lost as much ev in terms of wrong reffing decisions as arsenal just absolutely insane (the pieters one is NOT a handball/pen so not talking about that).
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Old 03-06-2021, 10:30 AM   #9748
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i have no idea what a handball is anymore.


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Old 03-06-2021, 10:38 AM   #9749
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Re: English Football 2020-21 - now with 100% additional Yorkshire

VAR is absolute trash. It just gives the refs extra time to **** us.
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Old 03-06-2021, 10:42 AM   #9750
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i have no idea what a handball is anymore.

We all know that you're allowed to handle the ball in that particular penalty area.

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