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03-06-2021 , 09:12 AM

#9726

MindFckr

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That was painful.

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03-06-2021 , 09:24 AM

#9727

Hoopie1

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God, that was amazing.

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03-06-2021 , 09:46 AM

#9728

DuckSauce

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Originally Posted by rickroll

yeah i get that

unfamiliar with their soccer stuff but iirc the 538 model loses money each year when it paper trades and it's a running joke in the betting forum back when people posted there, not saying i can do better or anything

i think i mentioned this last year, but xg calculations are extremely subjective and have some massive holes in them, it's closest equivalent to US analytics would be defensive ratings in baseball, which everyone agrees are meaningless but nice to have as guidance

they don't account for the quality of a player, so a free kick taken by myself or by david beckham in his prime will will have the same xg so long as we kick it in the same general region

futhermore, by default, most off foot shots are dramatically reduced, to the point where it could have been .6 xg on the normal foot but .1 on the other, yet we know many players are excellent from both feet - this is a big reason why salah always outperforms his xg by significant margins

there's also a lot of "let's make the math work" done after the fact to normalize the data, this is why if you add up the individual player xG contributions, it does not equal the team xG

it's good stuff, i'm a big fan of it, it's a step in the right direction, but sadly the really good and actionable data is gathered by hd cameras who measure where everyone is on the field and that's all proprietary and none of the teams are letting that go public out of fear they may be ahead of the curve

i'd much rather just look at posession, corners and shots taken and find that more useful

i'm by no means an expert, just while doing my own modeling, i've found xg to not be all that useful if i was already accounting for the more traditional data, it was more a way smooth out the edges than anything else

I dunno how it's done in epl, but it's far and away absolutely crushed it in both men's and women's world cup for like 3 straight iirc.

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03-06-2021 , 09:59 AM

#9729

Tall Paul

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Scream more Laca

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03-06-2021 , 10:03 AM

#9730

EnglishLad72

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Quite the impressive appearance from Peters

Insta yellow card
Should've conceded a pen

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03-06-2021 , 10:05 AM

#9731

MindFckr

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Handball rule perfectly fine

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03-06-2021 , 10:06 AM

#9732

Tall Paul

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Lucky to get away with that, but after the decisions we've had against Arsenal over the years, it's payback time.

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03-06-2021 , 10:08 AM

#9733

Tall Paul

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And that was a bad miss.

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03-06-2021 , 10:09 AM

#9734

ChopSueyyy

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pepe worth every penny for the lolz

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03-06-2021 , 10:09 AM

#9735

Tall Paul

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But not as bad as that one.

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03-06-2021 , 10:11 AM

#9736

EnglishLad72

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Lol Andrew Marriner

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03-06-2021 , 10:12 AM

#9737

Tall Paul

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Nowhere near a pen that one.

Tremendous block

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03-06-2021 , 10:13 AM

#9738

kingweed

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lol that was just pathetic

I was sitting here thinking that's going to be given.

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03-06-2021 , 10:13 AM

#9739

EnglishLad72

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Did Marriner just show him a yellow? Then he's off, I'm confused

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03-06-2021 , 10:15 AM

#9740

Tall Paul

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Originally Posted by EnglishLad72

Did Marriner just show him a yellow? Then he's off, I'm confused

You are, aren't you. What on earth would he be showing a yellow for?

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03-06-2021 , 10:16 AM

#9741

EnglishLad72

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He pulled out a red then a yellow, you tell me

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03-06-2021 , 10:17 AM

#9742

kingweed

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He showed him a red.

Then afterwards he showed him a yellow then a red and done like a no signal.

WTF?

I rewound it. He showed a red. Then showed a yellow then a red after the decision was cleared up.

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03-06-2021 , 10:20 AM

#9743

Tall Paul

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Originally Posted by EnglishLad72

He pulled out a red then a yellow, you tell me

Your answer lies here:

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Originally Posted by EnglishLad72

Lol Andrew Marriner

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03-06-2021 , 10:23 AM

#9744

EnglishLad72

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I think he pulled out the red, motioned as if to rescind it, then just randomly showed a yellow again, lol these refs

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03-06-2021 , 10:23 AM

#9745

MindFckr

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Mother****er

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03-06-2021 , 10:25 AM

#9746

EnglishLad72

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Would love to read Xhakas contract, never gets dropped or subbed

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03-06-2021 , 10:28 AM

#9747

DuckSauce

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No team in the history of sports has lost as much ev in terms of wrong reffing decisions as arsenal just absolutely insane (the pieters one is NOT a handball/pen so not talking about that).