to be fair, he was free. he just wasnt that good tonight

Man City need to stop buying multiple players for a few years and actually get the players they have to start learning to play with each other.
When Man Utd dominated, they only made 1 major signing a year and let the rest of the team work around them until they bedded in.

Different ball game now though.

Back then we could go to virtually any team in the league - what Bayern do and get players. Now we can’t and there is more competition.

We have taken Kane, Walker and Alli this summer 10-15 years ago etc

You’ve now basically got 4,5,6 clubs who’ll pay massive wages and big fees (maybe not Arsenal to be fair).

You’ve also got the issue of short term success.

Spurs moving stadium now, Arsenal wouldn’t be able to replicate their successful move - financially that is - if they where to move now or even a season or so back. They wouldn’t be able to walk to CL money. Villa with a bit of backing isn’t even in the same stratosphere as what you have now.

Matic was maybe our best player tonight and Pogba maybe worst. I don't know if you can read into the future potential much from this one game in fairness.

Yes we are still miles behind the best. But we aren't miles behind anyone in the PL. We should be challenging this year.

I think so too, don’t expect any PL club to do anything in the CL this year - just too far behind with a competitive league. City will be lucky to get to the semis

My knowledge is weaker this year and therefore less confident in my prediction skills for this season after nailing* last year's table:

I'll go:

1. City
2. Manu
3. Plop
4. Chelsea
5. Spuds
6. Arse
10. Rafa
18. Leicester
19. Burnley
20. Huddersfield

Champions League: Chelsea
Uefa Cup: Everton
FA Cup: Chelsea
League Cup: Chelsea
Community Shield: Think Arse will steal it on penalties
Super Cup: Real Madrid probably
Club World Cup: Real Madrid

Success Table:

1. Chelsea
2. City
3. Everton
4. Arse

As for chelsea, bit disappointed with our window as mentioned in other thread. Maybe 4th is too low but hazard / bakayoko don't start the season and there's some tricky games in the first six. Maybe I underrate the fact that we have a strong / solid system and that might carry us through scraping points early doors. Rarely concede first goal plus good game management - I'm not concerned about an early season collapse like two years ago where defence was all over the place from the off, conceding a bunch of chances. You could argue City were maybe a slightly better side than us last year anyway, brought in players to fix their leaks and potent players are ready to start the season - if they can continue to run bad then we have a chance but think we won't have enough over the season. Chuck money at Bale though and that 4th is a confident 1st. But that isn't happening. Think I might be underrating spuds too, not sure. Hope united finish 5th/6th again.

*puts TP on ignore.

https://twitter.com/spursofficial/st...71850681462784

Pretty sure Spurs will finish above Liverpool this year

Does anyone ever reference this site for injury news: http://premierinjuries.com/

If so is it fairly accurate? City's stuff all appear to be in line but not sure about other clubs

@PremierInjuries was excellent last season

Awesome - ty

So close to LET US EPL

I can't believe the season is already almost here. Still like dead of summer. Need to get my 2p2 freeroll wagers in. Out atm but will be serving up free money when I'm home.

1. City
2. United
3. Chelsea
4. Arsenal
5. Spurs
6. plop
7. Everton
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18. Swansea
19. Burnley
20. Brighton

1) Spurs
2) City
3) Pool
4) Chelsea
5) United
6) Everton
7) Arsenal
8) Leicester
9) Southampton
10) Stoke

1. Liverpool
2. City
3. Utd
4. Spurs
5. Chelsea
6. Arsenal

Relegated: Huddersfield, BHA, Burnley
Top scorer: Aguero
POTY: PHIL
1st manager sacked: Watford guy

Homerism aside and barring injury, one would think aguero and Jesus print goals this year with KDB silva and Bernardo serving them up. Plus there's the part where kolarov and Jesus navas won't be flinging in limp dick crosses. Haven't looked at the o/u but would imagine the over is a good play

People bullish on Everton. Really don't see it

If you believe this I'll take a Plop top 4 bet, 5th push, 6th you win if you wish. Market odds if they are available

I'm looking for LFC handicap v every good team but City for $25.

Also looking to fade Everton if anyone (LO) is interested

Yep. Everton will have a bad year. I'm nearly sure of it. Lukaku is a beast and they didn't spend it well. Barkley still to leave too (not that he is all that good)

They need Pickford to be worth 8-10 pts

#teameverton

lol Arsenal

So 66% a Cech?

I'll do 25. What are the ODDS saying?