The anti Mourinho cult is so biased that he get's criticism for saying things that 90% of posters ITT have pointed out in the past. Even his recent press conference comments about City's spending on goalkeepers alone was brought up in a lengthly post by BAIDS just a cpl weeks ago.

If anything Mourinho viewpoint is closer to lots of posters itt because he actually realises that spending/elite players is more important than whoever is on the bench.

He does go about it like a bit of a whiny **** which doesn't help and he's made so many enemies by this stage in his career that people just want to stick the boot in regardless.

Yes they did spew money left and right at the start of the oil money. I was referring to the last few years where they seem to have much more of a plan in place.

Just seen that west brom haven’t won in 18 games; city’s 18 game winning run has ended. Arse are involved. Pardew is due a win. Could be a great end to the year. Going to wish everyone an early happy new year and belated one to ashley.

the anti-mourinho "cult" criticizes him because he is a complete and utter ****. he gets a huge say in the transfer decisions, then blames the players when the results aren't good. he plays dire, boring football. he is the worst manager in the world for youth player development (outside of the jesse lingard vortex). he is disrespectful to approximately everyone (his players, other managers, the media, etc). there is plenty to quite fairly hate about the guy.

how much do you think a 23 year old Aguero and 24 year old silva cost in today's market? What about KDB? The price City paid for these guys was massive at the time but look like huge bargains with the influx of TBTVDITW $$ and how it's changed the market. City could sell Aguero and get back more than what they bought him for.

just bumped the transfer thread since we haven't been utilizing it. apparently sportsbild say goretzka is going to bayern. no lucrative free transfer for PL clubs.

Matic may be the worst Utd buy since Veron

What did Nastasic cost City? Seems dumb to list players like him among the lol megaflops like Robinho.

united bought bebe

/discussion

this would be a recent realisation on his part - when chelsea were smashing everyone on the back of abropounds he went around calling himself the special one

I have zero problem with people criticising Mourinho for style of football/youth development or being a ****. There's plenty of very real things to pick at so why then do people start going after him when he points out that the current United team is fairly ****e and needs much more investment especially when he's constantly being compared to City?

okay. so he is correct that they aren't there yet and need more investment, but he just spunked what, 150m this summer and 200m last? where does the buck stop for that mismanagement of transfers?

No but their spending is still vastly superior and raw number of players matters because you need to field 11 players and injuries/rotation needs to happen.

Having 2 super expensive (and i'd say their age is a big reason why they cost so much so there's at least some long term thinking there) players won't make up for having 50M at every position of the pitch and on the bench as well

also his feuds with other managers, wenger, rafa, ranieri, specialist in failure etc. basically went around saying 'i am a winner, these guys are losers' despite the fact that they were not competing on a level playing field due to £££££££££££££££££££

well now you're the loser mate

so don't buy pogba and pay a ridiculous price for lukaku (who is still at least somewhat limited) and get a LB that you rate more highly than ashley young and some other starters/good squad players. whose fault is that?

the argument is tantamount to "you can't blame mourinho for pep being a better manager in every way"

Didn't he actually call himself that before the splunking took place?

Btw Goretzka seems to be joining Bayern (who could've guessed) so Arse/Plop fans need a new target.

Just to add a layer of truth to the thread he actually called himself the special one after winning the CL with porto and of course the media seized on his comment and he rode the wave for years. Rode is accurate but feels a strange word to write.

Anyway, my issue with tso is that he puts a break on seriously talented players and while some of his sides have been nice to watch, it isn’t consistent enough and he reverts back to nature eventually instead of letting go. That’s why he sells players like robben and de bruyne and he’s better suited to managing players who will lap up everything he says and imo that works.

8bus or anyone - has there been any news on david silva whatsoever? just out for several games due to "personal reasons"(wtf)?

seems like he will be needed.

Matic has been excellent for us this season. Don't think I've seen a single United fan label him as any kind of a flop and tbh you're the first person on any forum I've heard say he's been bad.

I don't think his transfers have been bad and he's not responsible for what happened under Moyes/LVG. It's okay saying he's spent 300m but Pep has spent more than 300m despite inheriting Aguero/Silva/Kompany/KDB/Sterling etc

this was after he won the CL with porto

this is more accurate

there's only so much work he can get done in any window and United aren't operating like City despite having huge resources. He wanted Perisic in the summer to use as a LWB in a 3-5-2 but the owners wouldn't fork out the 40-50m Inter wanted on a 28 year old with a bit of a journeyman career. This doesn't happen at City

Ok then instead of spending the 140M they did this summer (not 200), they buy a competent back line instead (but then VVD just went for 75M) and they're still stuck with herrera, fellaini, lingaard, old mata and other mediocrity in the midfield. not going anywhere either

I don't think Pep is a genius manager (if you do then i'd be glad to hear what you thought 6 months ago when they were struggling to finish 4th despite spending the mot), I don't think Jose is a bad manager either, I do think the hate against him is exagerated and irrational a lot of the time because of strong bias against him (not questioning the reason for having a bias here) and as I said I think Man Utd are doing on par/better than they could hope for considering the talent they have in their squad. Pointing towards Mourinho for the lack of talent because is responsible of transfers (how much is he, who knows..?) is ok but you also have to take into consideration where he started from.

The comparison with City shouldn't exist, they had tons of talent already in the squad that would walk in United team (silva, kdb, aguero) and on top of that they added a bunch of >40M players at every position, have ridiculous depth and have had good luck with injuries

special semantics aside, he's always acted as if the rules of the game ought to be the following: winners win, losers lose, nothing else matters

now he's getting fingerblasted by infinity oil money on the reg he wants to claim mitigating circumstances

well you cant m8. **** off to psg and start giving press conferences about how much better you are than whoever is in charge of montpellier

Never forget

https://twitter.com/JonnyGabriel/sta...86831595180033

My Mourinho hatred is well known, but i love this post so much

Official word hasn’t come out yet yet but rumors are it has something to do so the with his (newborn) baby. Believe they were having a slme trouble but that’s just a rumor. He was unexpectedly out hen played then missed the next two games

His presence is definitely missed. Bernardo isn’t there yet and gund has been underwhelming. Hope his family is ok if the rumors are remotely true though

that thread is gold

my favorite so far:

Newcastle GOAT