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Only Liverpool can score a goal, concede a goal , concede a penalty , save that penalty and then concede another penalty but the ref missing it all within 5 minutes.

09-23-2017 , 03:08 PM

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NicReynolds

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God we are a shambles. Don't know how we ever win>15 games with this defence.

Hope you all caught the Burnley hudds game today. Doing incredible things that dyche.

09-23-2017 , 03:15 PM

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mw828

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Dyche will have them safe by the start of April. I hope he gets real freaky after that and starts playing all out attack because yolo.

09-23-2017 , 03:19 PM

#6655

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Originally Posted by Ra_Z_Boy

Not true if you have a history like Vardys. If Liverpool did their research this save was almost an inevitability.

I do wonder. Vardy will just blast it in the middle 90% of the time...Just gives a lot of power and hope it goes in. wonder if there is really no better option than him in that Leicester squad

09-23-2017 , 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MindFckr

I do wonder. Vardy will just blast it in the middle 90% of the time...Just gives a lot of power and hope it goes in. wonder if there is really no better option than him in that Leicester squad

It was Mahrez until recently (Ranieri seemed to favour him), but he was pretty terrible too. Shakespeare said he lets the players pick, and the chose Vardy.

Personally I don't know who I'd pick, probably Albrighton, but who knows what they are like in training.

09-23-2017 , 03:29 PM

#6657

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Originally Posted by NicReynolds

God we are a shambles. Don't know how we ever win>15 games with this defence.

Hope you all caught the Burnley hudds game today. Doing incredible things that dyche.

Maybe stop rotating the defense every game?

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Yupp that is true. I don't really like the players choosing though.

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09-23-2017 , 03:38 PM

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I don't know why they don't go over it in training and choose the best from that objectively and then only change when they say miss two in quick succession and start over again. The competition will naturally improve the standard among your players as well as making sure your best taker is on it. Perhaps clubs already do this.

09-23-2017 , 03:41 PM

#6659

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Vardy could only be the best if Schmeichel jumps out of the way on purpose to avoid a wrist injury

09-23-2017 , 03:46 PM

#6660

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Every club I've ever played at has he regular training in free kicks and penalties.
I doubt it's any different in top flight football.

09-23-2017 , 03:47 PM

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Maybe stop rotating the defense every game?
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Injuries doe

09-23-2017 , 03:48 PM

#6662

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Guys, pen takers should be the highest paid player at the club. Pen taking ability has nothing to do with it.

09-23-2017 , 03:53 PM

#6663

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Originally Posted by heh

Injuries doe

I got the impression that there is a lot more rotation going on at the back. Not just because of injuries. Am I wrong?

09-23-2017 , 03:54 PM

#6664

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I've been a big advocate for a rule stipulating that whoever provokes the pen has to take it

09-23-2017 , 03:56 PM

#6665

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Originally Posted by Cinarocket

I've been a big advocate for a rule stipulating that whoever provokes the pen has to take it

a'la NBA? Who takes it if said player is injured or acting to be injured? Say Klavan is fouled, I think he would hold his ankle until Coutinho takes the pen and get on with it.

09-23-2017 , 04:00 PM

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I've been a big advocate for a rule stipulating that whoever provokes the pen has to take it

How would that work for handballs? Doesn't have to be an attacking player who plays the ball into a defender's hand.

Last edited by PeteBlow; 09-23-2017 at 04:01 PM. Reason: You need to think through this long held idea

09-23-2017 , 04:05 PM

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If it's a handball, the taker should have to throw it in

09-23-2017 , 04:31 PM

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a'la NBA? Who takes it if said player is injured or acting to be injured? Say Klavan is fouled, I think he would hold his ankle until Coutinho takes the pen and get on with it.

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Originally Posted by PeteBlow

How would that work for handballs? Doesn't have to be an attacking player who plays the ball into a defender's hand.

let's be honest, the situations in which it wouldn't be clear as day are <10%. I'd be fine leaving it to the referee's appreciation and the benefits (mainly statistical) outweight the few odd cases. Handballs is easy, for every handball there will be an attacking player involved one way or the other, once again most handball cases are straight up crosses/shots that hit an opponent hand.

Mindfckr, in the NBA what they do is that if the player is injured, the team gets to choose who shoots but the player can't come back into the game if he skips his shooting duties. i think similar rule would be sensible

09-23-2017 , 04:33 PM

#6669

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Yea i can get behind that

09-23-2017 , 04:54 PM

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Vardy strategy is not that bad against a random keeper, he had still scored 4 out of 5 overall. Just because a strategy is exploitable doesn't make it a bad one if the field allows you to get away with it.
But Mignolet has a good saving record and his last penalty save had been using a similar strategy of waiting in the middle before diving. Against Mignolet he should have changed. But to me that's more on the manager than on Vardy, the manager should have told Vardy that Mignolet had waited in the middle on his last penalty.

09-23-2017 , 05:01 PM

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No, that’s down to the goal keeping coach.

09-23-2017 , 05:01 PM

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If the manager says the players select a pen taker I doubt he cares too much how he takes it

09-23-2017 , 05:04 PM

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We have too many poor defenders but we are also seeing how wrong those that didn't rate Lucas leivas contributions were. Never replaced him sufficiently. Hendo had a good 6 months in the role but it's not natural to him.