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09-12-2017 , 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by martymc1
Michael O Neill arrested for drink driving. Arsehole.

Ok now TP?
lol

09-12-2017 , 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Hoopie1
Warning - xG article.
09-12-2017 , 08:22 AM
Liverpool need to start using the huns legal advisors, can then get away with punching/headbutting/kicking in the face at their pleasure.

Thank yourselves lucky you's have the FA, even though they are another bunch of ****s they still look like they are the most competent organisation on the planet next to their Scottish counterparts.

Last edited by unwantedguest; 09-12-2017 at 08:29 AM.
09-12-2017 , 09:08 AM
Next stage of xG is to base it on ball and player position alone rather than shots. I.e. situational xG. In this exact scenario, like a player squaring for another to kick into an empty net and he misses it completely for example, it's 0.7 xG instead of 1 like currently. The dangerous moment thing seems poorly quantified in this regard at the moment.

Last edited by Ra_Z_Boy; 09-12-2017 at 09:16 AM.
09-12-2017 , 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Ra_Z_Boy
Football League gets a pretty bumper new deal from Sky. £600m over 5 yeara. Not sure how much difference it will really make when still dwarfed so much by the PL. I imagine the Scottish league will feel the pain most falling even further behind lower league English clubs.
Looks like the new deal includes streaming of all midweek Championship matches. Only a matter of time before they do away with the Saturday blackout, I suspect.
09-12-2017 , 12:23 PM
Appeal rejected
09-12-2017 , 01:29 PM
Wish someone could tell me how £600m deal was achieved? Any idea how many other companies bidding for the rights? Do the championship and lower league games get enough viewers to justify it?

Thought all sky subs were exclusively for PL football ahead of all other football.

Last edited by unwantedguest; 09-12-2017 at 01:29 PM. Reason: Hoping BAIDS can help.
09-12-2017 , 02:22 PM
should first note that its £600m for 5 years, so £120m/yr spread out over 3 leagues (presumably the c'ship gets the fat share), its about 7% of the deal which the pl have (£1.7bn/yr)

football league describes the process as an open tender, ie a bunch of broadcasters make an offer and then the league pick the best one. same as pl. no idea how many companies made an offer, altho some efl bloke said

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I would like to thank all those who submitted bids and we now look forward to working with the Sky Sports team as they cement their position as the broadcast home of live EFL matches.
so presumably more than 1

whether they get enough viewers to justify it idk, they seem to think so or else they wouldn't have upped their offer. some sky bloke:

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Viewing of live EFL games grew by 12% year-on-year last season, and is up a further 7% so far this season.
not like broadcasters always get it right tho, there's a few yanks that recently paid hugebigly for nfl rights, viewership is down and they are experiencing squeaky bum time.

an example closer to home: itv digital paid £315m for the right to show football league games for 3 years back in early 2000s, it turned out no one fancied paying a subscription to see yeovil vs barnet, so they went busto and the clubs received a fraction of what they were contractually entitled to
09-12-2017 , 02:33 PM
Presumably they've looked at the take up of the same thing that is already available overseas, worked out how many people are vpning and gone from there
09-12-2017 , 03:00 PM
Struggling to work out why our game tonight kicks off at 8, rather than quarter to like the rest of the league. One can only assume it's so that those who have paid Notlob's absurd prices will miss the last train home as a result
09-12-2017 , 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Ra_Z_Boy
Next stage of xG is to base it on ball and player position alone rather than shots. I.e. situational xG. In this exact scenario, like a player squaring for another to kick into an empty net and he misses it completely for example, it's 0.7 xG instead of 1 like currently. The dangerous moment thing seems poorly quantified in this regard at the moment.
The next stage of xG should be to differentiate whether a chance falls to Aguero or Stephen Hawking and whether Hart or De Gea is in goal.
09-12-2017 , 03:20 PM
Thank God for that input, no one has ever thought about shooting talent.
09-12-2017 , 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by royalblue
Thank God for that input, no one has ever thought about shooting talent.
Well, until someone stops thinking about it and actually implements it, xG is meaningless.
'x' isn't 'x' without that factor.
09-12-2017 , 03:36 PM
Carter-Vickers update for Spuds fans - scored on his debut
09-12-2017 , 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by PeteBlow
Well, until someone stops thinking about it and actually implements it, xG is meaningless.
'x' isn't 'x' without that factor.
here's a smattering





these were the outliers from a few seasons ago, implying that 99% of players tracked by opta fall somewhere between +0.5 and -0.2 goals vs xG prediction per 50 shots. not much error with which to get ones knickers in a twist over iyam. very small adjustments here & there unless u dealing with the goat
09-12-2017 , 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by PeteBlow
The next stage of xG should be to differentiate whether a chance falls to Aguero or Stephen Hawking and whether Hart or De Gea is in goal.
Part of the value of it is to see who outperforms the xG though. Obviously it should eventually be capable of both.
09-12-2017 , 04:48 PM
I see that pig Madine is able to elbow our players and not get sent off
09-12-2017 , 04:57 PM
Three points, up to third, this is fine
09-12-2017 , 05:03 PM
Would love to see both sheffield clubs and dirty leeds promoted this season.
09-12-2017 , 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by xXDeuce7Xx
Would love to see both sheffield clubs and dirty leeds promoted this season.
Are you sure?
09-12-2017 , 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Ra_Z_Boy
Are you sure?
Yeah it's been long enough, Leeds should be in the PL. Once they're there I might root for them to be relegated though.
09-12-2017 , 05:17 PM
BAIDS
09-12-2017 , 05:28 PM
Leeds getting a nine figure windfall then still doing a Leeds would be amazing
09-12-2017 , 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by sixfour
Carter-Vickers update for Spuds fans - scored on his debut
Nice to hear he got off to a good start - How was his defensive performance?
09-12-2017 , 05:36 PM
Wasn't at the game, but clean sheet. Apparently should have had a second but Notlob's keeper pulled off a great save

      
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