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12-06-2015 , 05:47 PM
crazy world we live in if leicester can afford to turn down a 40m offer
12-06-2015 , 06:06 PM
I don't think they would turn down Ł40m
12-06-2015 , 06:07 PM
much better than lolbale who went for close to 100
12-06-2015 , 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Cinarocket
didn't know neil had a 147 earlier today. seems like they're a lot more frequent these days
Down to the sheer number of tournaments that are on the pro circuit now. Stephen/Ronnies records of centuries, 147 will be smashed.

Robertson hit 100 century breaks in a single season a couple of season ago.

Doubt anyone gets near their tournament records and match records though, not in the near future anyway.

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Originally Posted by BookerT
crazy world we live in if leicester can afford to turn down a 40m offer
Everton turned down Ł40m for Stones, don't think it's all the crazy with super rich owners and tv deal.
12-06-2015 , 06:39 PM
Cazorla had knee surgery today. That is not good.
12-06-2015 , 06:42 PM
not comparable to Everton imo. Besides the fact that Everton are more comfortable financially speaking we are talking about a player whose play was going unnoticed last season and who's been performing insanely well over a short period of time (couldn't make algeria first team during WC) so unless the theory is that he became a scorepoint every 70mins kinda player over the season there are a lot more things pointing towards those numbers being inflated due to variance over a small sample/leicester's style of play who basically sacrifices defense for offense (ther are only 7 worse defenses than them itl)/the soft schedule they had.


Stones meanwhile is a brave english man who has been getting attention as soon as he started playing in the PL. He's also a CB and his value is a lot less dependent on goals/assists so there are a lot less downside turning down a 37M offer especially when the club offering is Chelsea, I'm sure Everton will end up selling Stones and it won't be for much more than 40M they just tried to juice Chelsea as much as they could and once Chelsea stopped the bidding they were fine with keeping him for another season and figured the offer would still be there and may even be bigger due to TV money and all that. that's my guess anyway.

No way Leicester turn down Ł40M for Mahrez imo, I just had a look at their biggest transfer over the last few years was some dude from the croatian league they paid 9M for. You don't risk not getting that Ł40M if you're Leicester, not that I think they'd ever get that offer
12-06-2015 , 07:00 PM
Apparently the twitter-verse is rife with rumor over Rooney's absence. The story going around is that Rooney is not injured, but rather that a blood test at Carrington revealed alcohol in his system.

Anybody know anything about this?
12-06-2015 , 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by BookerT
Apparently the twitter-verse is rife with rumor over Rooney's absence. The story going around is that Rooney is not injured, but rather that a blood test at Carrington revealed alcohol in his system.

Anybody know anything about this?
Of course Rooneys not injured! Hes been dropped!
12-06-2015 , 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by BookerT
Apparently the twitter-verse is rife with rumor over Rooney's absence. The story going around is that Rooney is not injured, but rather that a blood test at Carrington revealed alcohol in his system.

Anybody know anything about this?
The rumour has been started by RedIssue who aren't reliable in the slightest. Would be delighted if it was though.
12-06-2015 , 07:14 PM
What does it mean for contracts if stuff like this actually happens? Us getting out of the 300k per/week deal with him til 2019(lol) would be awesome
12-06-2015 , 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Cinarocket
not comparable to Everton imo. Besides the fact that Everton are more comfortable financially speaking we are talking about a player whose play was going unnoticed last season and who's been performing insanely well over a short period of time (couldn't make algeria first team during WC) so unless the theory is that he became a scorepoint every 70mins kinda player over the season there are a lot more things pointing towards those numbers being inflated due to variance over a small sample/leicester's style of play who basically sacrifices defense for offense (ther are only 7 worse defenses than them itl)/the soft schedule they had.


Stones meanwhile is a brave english man who has been getting attention as soon as he started playing in the PL. He's also a CB and his value is a lot less dependent on goals/assists so there are a lot less downside turning down a 37M offer especially when the club offering is Chelsea, I'm sure Everton will end up selling Stones and it won't be for much more than 40M they just tried to juice Chelsea as much as they could and once Chelsea stopped the bidding they were fine with keeping him for another season and figured the offer would still be there and may even be bigger due to TV money and all that. that's my guess anyway.

No way Leicester turn down Ł40M for Mahrez imo, I just had a look at their biggest transfer over the last few years was some dude from the croatian league they paid 9M for. You don't risk not getting that Ł40M if you're Leicester, not that I think they'd ever get that offer
It was more of a case of there is just that much money in the English game now that the clubs can turn down offers, they can spend money. They can pay the big wages now. WBA turned down over Ł20m for a player too and he was desperate to go.

T.P also mentioned rumours of 90k p/w for vardy! Championship clubs are spending Ł9M on players now as well.

And we aren't even into the blockbuster TV deal! Keep the team and a good finish next year and that Ł40m doesn't look that great.
12-06-2015 , 07:26 PM


How much will these amounts increase with the new tv deal ?
12-06-2015 , 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Cinarocket

No way Leicester turn down Ł40M for Mahrez imo, I just had a look at their biggest transfer over the last few years was some dude from the croatian league they paid 9M for. You don't risk not getting that Ł40M if you're Leicester, not that I think they'd ever get that offer
We have brilliant, ambitious owners who have backed the team since the day they arrived. There is no debt at the club and they want long term, sustainable premier league football. If someone came in with Ł40m in January i wouldn't be surprised if we turned it down. If someone came in with Ł40m in July, then that might be different. One thing is for sure though, Leicester are not a selling club. The premier league is becoming more exciting for us "lesser" teams as the big pay day coming from next season's tv deal will go a long way towards preventing the "big 5 or 6" simply buying up the competition.
12-06-2015 , 07:31 PM
@booker:-

12-06-2015 , 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Cinarocket
not comparable to Everton imo. Besides the fact that Everton are more comfortable financially speaking we are talking about a player whose play was going unnoticed last season and who's been performing insanely well over a short period of time (couldn't make algeria first team during WC) so unless the theory is that he became a scorepoint every 70mins kinda player over the season there are a lot more things pointing towards those numbers being inflated due to variance over a small sample/leicester's style of play who basically sacrifices defense for offense (ther are only 7 worse defenses than them itl)/the soft schedule they had.


Stones meanwhile is a brave english man who has been getting attention as soon as he started playing in the PL. He's also a CB and his value is a lot less dependent on goals/assists so there are a lot less downside turning down a 37M offer especially when the club offering is Chelsea, I'm sure Everton will end up selling Stones and it won't be for much more than 40M they just tried to juice Chelsea as much as they could and once Chelsea stopped the bidding they were fine with keeping him for another season and figured the offer would still be there and may even be bigger due to TV money and all that. that's my guess anyway.

No way Leicester turn down Ł40M for Mahrez imo, I just had a look at their biggest transfer over the last few years was some dude from the croatian league they paid 9M for. You don't risk not getting that Ł40M if you're Leicester, not that I think they'd ever get that offer
Yeah idk if I agree here. I was super high on Mahrez early last season. He kind of wore out and form faded later on, but he was clearly the talent of the team then. I had not seen him prior to last season. While I agree he can't sustain his scorepoint barrage, he has been phenomenal aside from the g+a numbers. And his VORP is very high compared to a CB where you can probably just get 45 yr old Distin and not be DOA. The pool of creative talents like Mahrez is small. And talent actually matters, unlike Englishness and bravery.
12-06-2015 , 07:35 PM
Barca and Real Madrid will now earn roughly Ł110m
Bayern Ł30m
Juventus Ł70m
PSG Ł40
12-06-2015 , 07:40 PM
yeah Leicester are an absurd/extreme example but it's clear that the TV deal is going to be a huge leveler over the next few seasons as the need for smaller clubs to sell star players is dramatically reduced.

In the case of John Stones, Everton's chairman Bill Kenwright was widely quoted as being adamant that selling him to Chelsea would be an unnecessary short-term move whereas keeping him and letting him prove his worth would be infinitely more profitable for both club and player. Seems pretty clear that he was right, but a few seasons ago he simply wouldn't have been able to pass up such a huge influx of cash. Thanks to the TV deal, he and other mid-lower club chairmen are sufficiently comfortable to hold on to big-money players and realise the longer-term EV.

It's a great time for the league as a whole. I doubt the boom will continue for more than a couple of years for multiple reasons, but right now it's fantastic.
12-06-2015 , 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by LostOstrich
It's a great time for the league as a whole. I doubt the boom will continue for more than a couple of years for multiple reasons, but right now it's fantastic.
care to elaborate?
12-06-2015 , 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by BookerT
care to elaborate?
TV subscriptions next season are going to be very interesting.

Can they keep them at the same as the current deal? More and more people are streaming, more pubs are getting those dodgy boxes as well.

They increase prices by the same % as this increased TV deal, alot of people are going to be pissed off.
12-06-2015 , 07:52 PM
Main reason is I don't see TV rights being as valuable as free internet streams continue to evolve
12-06-2015 , 07:59 PM
just spent a good 5 minutes searching for the little blue salt packet in a bag of Salt N Shake, only to conclude that there isn't one. What an infuriating experience that was.
12-06-2015 , 08:03 PM
The boom could get even bigger if/when BT Sport get involved in the bidding for TV rights.
12-06-2015 , 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by t3hbandit
The boom could get even bigger if/when BT Sport get involved in the bidding for TV rights.
BT are involved in it. They 'refused' if you will to keep the better package for the up coming TV deal and went with the cheapest package - the package that sky don't want, only because they aren't allowed to have all them.

BT, Disney and bein sports are the reason the deal actually got as big as it did.
12-06-2015 , 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by LostOstrich
yeah Leicester are an absurd/extreme example but it's clear that the TV deal is going to be a huge leveler over the next few seasons as the need for smaller clubs to sell star players is dramatically reduced.

In the case of John Stones, Everton's chairman Bill Kenwright was widely quoted as being adamant that selling him to Chelsea would be an unnecessary short-term move whereas keeping him and letting him prove his worth would be infinitely more profitable for both club and player. Seems pretty clear that he was right, but a few seasons ago he simply wouldn't have been able to pass up such a huge influx of cash. Thanks to the TV deal, he and other mid-lower club chairmen are sufficiently comfortable to hold on to big-money players and realise the longer-term EV.

It's a great time for the league as a whole. I doubt the boom will continue for more than a couple of years for multiple reasons, but right now it's fantastic.
The big winners out of this will be the agents and the other clubs in Europe who know they can double the prices on their players.
12-06-2015 , 08:17 PM
also özil best creator in the top leagues with 4.5 KP/game
only other players coming close are neymar(4.1) and payet(3.9), not surprising west ham's form went off a cliff when he got injured.

neymar the standout player of the season so far with 14G/5A in 1200 mins with 4.1kp a game
surprise for me is another algerian called boudebouz playing for montepellier leading ligue 1 KP/game with 3.4.
based on stats di maria seems to have a great season so far too

      
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