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11-04-2015 , 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Lars1
speaking of managers, why do pool/spurs not play their reserves in the EL when they only have 4-5% equity anyway? especially for spurs who have such a thin squad it seems really obvious to tank the EL to avoid injuries/fatigue to key players.
What's our equity for winning the league? With them offering a CL place to the winners now it's jumped above FA cup in importance.
11-04-2015 , 10:01 PM
the whole "our team ought to deliberately tank this football competition in which we have decent equity, so as to slightly increase our chances of qualifying for another football competition next year which we would have very little chance of winning" thing is quite silly.

OT question time. I want to create an apple ID for the teenager, but obviously I'm not prepared to link my credit card details to it. Up until recently she's just used her mother's Apple ID, but she's evolving fast and sharing an ID is no longer a practical solution.

Presumably there's a way to set up a 13yo kid with an Apple ID without linking a payment method? A cursory scan of the internet tells me it may not be as simple as I hoped, but I can't believe I'm the first person to want to do this. Can anyone help?
11-04-2015 , 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Consty
PA Dugout ‏@PA_dugout

#Breaking #QPR have sacked Chris Ramsey, with Neil Warnock taking temporary charge of first team affairs.

Spoiler:
WAT? Again?

Another black manager getting canned...Sol Campbell will be on a rampage.
11-04-2015 , 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Lars1
speaking of managers, why do pool/spurs not play their reserves in the EL when they only have 4-5% equity anyway? especially for spurs who have such a thin squad it seems really obvious to tank the EL to avoid injuries/fatigue to key players.
It looks like Klopp is going all out to win it. He brought the entire squad to Russia for tomorrow's match.
11-04-2015 , 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Lars1
speaking of managers, why do pool/spurs not play their reserves in the EL when they only have 4-5% equity anyway? especially for spurs who have such a thin squad it seems really obvious to tank the EL to avoid injuries/fatigue to key players.
Pool played 4 teenagers in their last EL outing, I think. As well as Toure in at CB.
11-05-2015 , 01:02 AM
Just F off with your 'equity' bs wrt football. You're just pulling figures out of thin air.
It doesn't make you sound clever, it makes you sound foolish.
11-05-2015 , 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by PeteBlow
Just F off with your 'equity' bs wrt football. You're just pulling figures out of thin air.
It doesn't make you sound clever, it makes you sound foolish.
would you rather a steam hot pile of narrative instead?
11-05-2015 , 01:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Lars1
speaking of managers, why do pool/spurs not play their reserves in the EL when they only have 4-5% equity anyway? especially for spurs who have such a thin squad it seems really obvious to tank the EL to avoid injuries/fatigue to key players.
Yeah and I've heard that there's sick PL TV money for 5th place trophy compared to 6th place for example. Not sarcasm.
11-05-2015 , 02:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Empire Man
Start tossing Mason/Chadli/Townsend/Bentaleb into the mix and bit by bit the whole machine breaks down. We're not that deep. The four guys I just listed have some good attributes but none of them is capable of consistently making positive decisions in tough spots.
On this specific point, this is really no different to Arsenal, Liverpool or anyone below the top tier. Arse have Failmini/Arteta and Plop have Joe Allen as their midfield backup; not going to debate who has the better squad players, but clearly there is a drop off from their first choices in most positions.

Good post overall btw, and nice to see i'm not along being high on Dembele this season. Both him and Vertonghen lost their way over the last couple of seasons, but both seem to have stepped up as senior players in this young team.

Son back for the EL game tonight. Poch debating whether to start him. I don't expect him to change a winning team V Arsenal, so it wouldn't surprise me if he started Son up-front, replaced him with N'Jie ~60mins, and rested Kane completely.

Last edited by Elrazor; 11-05-2015 at 02:40 AM.
11-05-2015 , 03:34 AM
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Originally Posted by PeteBlow
Just F off with your 'equity' bs wrt football. You're just pulling figures out of thin air.
It doesn't make you sound clever, it makes you sound foolish.
oddschecker though.

rotating is the only way to be competitive in both league and cups. Spurs don't have the squad to do that so might as well give up on the EL and take all that free top 4 equity laying around the corpse of Jose.
11-05-2015 , 04:15 AM
Spurs have 3 group games left in Europa - 2 at home. Plus, we went out of the LC at an early stage. Plus, I think EL football has been a benefit to Spurs - only lazy journalists are really peddling EL hangover narratives.

I don't see why we wouldn't try to win those 3 games, and see where the chips fall next year when the KO starts. We might blow up in the league and have little/nothing to play for, so the Europa might be our only top 4 equity. Or we might be lying 3rd next February.

Either way, it's better to give yourself options rather than throw all your eggs in the league basket at this stage.
11-05-2015 , 04:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Elrazor
Either way, it's better to give yourself options rather than throw all your eggs in the league basket at this stage.
Especially if that basket is a variance riddled KO type tournament

Welp, I read it wrong, early in the morning so apologies. But my point still stands- saying we want to bust x competition for y at this stage is not to be taken seriously, ALTHOUGH it might have some merit(hard to say that no other games than league games would benefit us in the EPL this season, but I wont be rooting for us to bust every possible competition for that equity bump)
If say you are in the quarter-final of the EL then you might say we should focus on this or that...not this early though.

Last edited by MindFckr; 11-05-2015 at 04:26 AM.
11-05-2015 , 06:23 AM
History would suggest that transfer deadline day will be a more entertaining event at Loftus Road with Neil Warnock at the helm.

https://twitter.com/jshirls28/status/506713119809634304
11-05-2015 , 06:31 AM
lol
11-05-2015 , 07:02 AM
UEFA allowed five Spanish teams in CL due to Sevilla's Europa win. Does that mean we can't screw spuds again with another CL triumph? Or will UEFA only apply 'more than 4 team' ruling to Europa binks?

In other news I believe Klopp has 100% equity in Europa.
11-05-2015 , 07:30 AM
no, you can't screw spuds
11-05-2015 , 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by sixfour
no, you can't screw spuds
So potentially 6 teams for any league? Ie spuds 4th, pool europa, chelsea cl, arse, city, leicester.
11-05-2015 , 07:41 AM
Spurs arent going to win the league or CL in the next 25 years at least imo. If you are a Spurs fan and want the club to only try and win those 2 competitions you aren't going to have much to celebrate in your lifetime.
11-05-2015 , 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by ZAIDS
UEFA allowed five Spanish teams in CL due to Sevilla's Europa win. Does that mean we can't screw spuds again with another CL triumph? Or will UEFA only apply 'more than 4 team' ruling to Europa binks?

In other news I believe Klopp has 100% equity in Europa.
Yes. You can screw them.

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An exception to the usual European qualification system happened in 2005, after Liverpool won the Champions League the year before, but did not finish in a Champions League qualification place in the Premier League that season. UEFA gave special dispensation for Liverpool to enter the Champions League, giving England five qualifiers.[47] UEFA subsequently ruled that the defending champions qualify for the competition the following year regardless of their domestic league placing. However, for those leagues with four entrants in the Champions League, this meant that, if the Champions League winner fell outside of its domestic league's top four, it would qualify at the expense of the fourth-placed team in the league.

Last edited by PeteBlow; 11-05-2015 at 07:47 AM.
11-05-2015 , 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by ZAIDS
So potentially 6 teams for any league? Ie spuds 4th, pool europa, chelsea cl, arse, city, leicester.
No. 5 is the max, as Spain have this season.

If they allowed 6 teams, they would have to strip that extra place from another country in Europe, which they won't be doing as they've already done this season by allowing Spain a 5th place for Sevilla's Europa League win.

It was the worst case scenario for UEFA there as Sevilla finished outside the top 4. Had they finished in the top 4, it's not clear where that 5th place would've gone, Spain or elsewhere. I can't find the correct page on the UEFA site.

http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague...d=2137611.html

Last edited by PeteBlow; 11-05-2015 at 07:53 AM.
11-05-2015 , 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by PeteBlow
Yes. You can screw them.
that changed this year
11-05-2015 , 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by NicReynolds
Spurs arent going to win the league or CL in the next 25 years at least imo. If you are a Spurs fan and want the club to only try and win those 2 competitions you aren't going to have much to celebrate in your lifetime.
Wtf is this?

Spurs have as much league equity than plop and we will have a new stadium in 3 years that will be the 2nd biggest stadium in the league and being located in London and with NFL our turnover should be in the top 5 in Europe excluding the financial doping clubs.
11-05-2015 , 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by sixfour
that changed this year
http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague...d=2137611.html

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The maximum number of clubs from one association that can qualify for the UEFA Champions League is increased to five.
EDIT:

Article 3 is the key part of the UEFA regulations.

http://www.uefa.org/MultimediaFiles/...1_DOWNLOAD.pdf

Last edited by PeteBlow; 11-05-2015 at 08:21 AM.
11-05-2015 , 08:47 AM
Too late to edit above.

I see my earlier wiki quote. #16819, was outdated. (who would've thought it, Wiki is wrong!)

Even so, it is still possible for Spurs to finish 4th and miss out on the Champions League.
It would depend on English teams winning both the CL and Europa League whilst both finishing outside the top 4.

It would certainly make for a brilliantly funny scenario.
11-05-2015 , 08:57 AM
BREAKING: Associated press: Karim Benzema charged with conspiracy to blackmail and participating in a criminal group

Not like a French side to implode before a major championship. He obviously can't play for France now whilst this is going on.

      
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